Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

And where in the brochure does it say that?


Test flight with dry thrust is within the magic 15% that Gaijin gives the airframe model

That’s what maximum speed means.

If they want to list speed with max dry thrust they will specify it …

Plus, I don’t think Su-34 would hit Mach 1.5 without afterburner :)

But how sure are you that’s what Sukhoi actually means by Max speed on the deck?

That’s what max speed means.

Find me one example where someone lists speed on max dry thrust as “maximum flight speed” without explicitly specifying it … It’s just not how it works …

BTW, that shows you how much the plane is over performing …
It reaches speed at max dry thrust that it should (or shouldn’t) reach with max afterburner thrust

Bug report:

Su-30SM incorrect max speed and service ceiling:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/KGhMbY13pPle

Su-30SM incorrect fuel amount:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VqenkFiPjwE4

Su-30SM incorrect engine mass:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/g1EvTtLc45XR


su32 has the same mtow , same engines , same service ceiling as SU-34E , can you explain how the SU-34E is much worse than SU-32 ? even the airframe is the same. i feel like its 1100kmph with the given loadout. (2xr77 + 2xr74m + 6xAB-500 + 2 jamming pods)

Su-30M2


I like the orange stickers on the nose lol

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If we assume the brochures are authentic (and correct, i.e. no fake information from the manufacturer due to some information being classified), and assume that Su-32 and Su-34E are the same and should have the same max speed on the deck:

Given that the 1100 kph figure is listed for Su-34E/32:

1- Without external stores
2- With only 4x AAMs
3- With 4x AAMs + 6 bombs

It’s very much possible that the limit could be structural …

That would mean that the wing rip limit would have to be lowered to around 1.1 * 1100 kph = 1210 kph in the game …

Add another magic 15%

doesnt it 1.05 from IRL to WT?

Well, the Su-27 family seems to be having a 1.1 multiplier.

Su-27SK manual specifies a 1400 kph max speed due to structural limit.
Su-27/Su-27SM/J-11 get a 1540 kph wing rip speed in WT. So a 1.1 multiplier.

I now know why the bug reporting managers are anonymous


@Gunjob could you pls take a look at this.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QmmV3OV8iKgt

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TBF it was a bit difficult to see the problem :)

Perhaps put a marker around those symbols on the screenshot where they are present and where they are missing, so the tech mod can understand what’s going on …

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I mean they are right, you didn’t provide any sources.

You need to show what the real symbology looks like. Some aircraft don’t display NCTR information on the HUD IRL, only the radar screen.

No it’s not…

You’re looking at the flight range, not the speed.

It is missing symbology in simulator difficulty it has in RB

I don’t think I need to provide sources for that

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@Flame2512 I saw what you deleted

RB:

Sim:

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My bad I thought you were referring to the green game UI, didn’t notice the HUD text.
image

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Yeah I deleted it because I realised I’d made a mistake and explained that mistake in the comment I just posted.