I mean weight also affects drag you know. Can’t really discount it as a factor. Also aren’t these values just as good as stat card values? It’s not like the Su-30 would fall out of the sky the moment it hits max speed
We are talking about what speed it can reach, not structural limit.
Different equipment (HUD, MFD, RWR, IFF etc) can at most result in a couple of hundred kg of weight difference (if even that; And usually they try to minimize the weight difference to make the change easier).
A couple of hundred kgs of internal weight isn’t gonna change the top speed of a 25 ton aircraft very much …
Like I said, it is not like it falls out of the sky once it reaches top speed
We are not talking about whether it falls or doesn’t fall
We are talking about how much the top speed is … I.e. how fast it can go before it doesn’t accelerate anymore … I.e. Thrust = Drag
and do you think this is a hard limit on the manufacturer end? doesn’t just that mean that Sukhoi can guarantee it’s safety up to 1,100kph?
Also is this taking into account Afterburner thrust or just dry thrust?
Depends
Sometimes the max speed is what the plane can achieve
Sometimes it’s what the manufacturer allows you to go
No way to know without the manual, but we are already in a territory where planes are still in service and manuals are classified …
Afterburner
And where in the brochure does it say that?
Test flight with dry thrust is within the magic 15% that Gaijin gives the airframe model
That’s what maximum speed means.
If they want to list speed with max dry thrust they will specify it …
Plus, I don’t think Su-34 would hit Mach 1.5 without afterburner :)
But how sure are you that’s what Sukhoi actually means by Max speed on the deck?
That’s what max speed means.
Find me one example where someone lists speed on max dry thrust as “maximum flight speed” without explicitly specifying it … It’s just not how it works …
BTW, that shows you how much the plane is over performing …
It reaches speed at max dry thrust that it should (or shouldn’t) reach with max afterburner thrust
Bug report:
Su-30SM incorrect max speed and service ceiling:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/KGhMbY13pPle
Su-30SM incorrect fuel amount:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VqenkFiPjwE4
Su-30SM incorrect engine mass:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/g1EvTtLc45XR
su32 has the same mtow , same engines , same service ceiling as SU-34E , can you explain how the SU-34E is much worse than SU-32 ? even the airframe is the same. i feel like its 1100kmph with the given loadout. (2xr77 + 2xr74m + 6xAB-500 + 2 jamming pods)
I like the orange stickers on the nose lol
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If we assume the brochures are authentic (and correct, i.e. no fake information from the manufacturer due to some information being classified), and assume that Su-32 and Su-34E are the same and should have the same max speed on the deck:
Given that the 1100 kph figure is listed for Su-34E/32:
1- Without external stores
2- With only 4x AAMs
3- With 4x AAMs + 6 bombs
It’s very much possible that the limit could be structural …
That would mean that the wing rip limit would have to be lowered to around 1.1 * 1100 kph = 1210 kph in the game …
Add another magic 15%
doesnt it 1.05 from IRL to WT?
Well, the Su-27 family seems to be having a 1.1 multiplier.
Su-27SK manual specifies a 1400 kph max speed due to structural limit.
Su-27/Su-27SM/J-11 get a 1540 kph wing rip speed in WT. So a 1.1 multiplier.