I have no doubts about the data from Sukhoi’s website!..
Compare…
1.Su-27SK…
2.Su-24M from a well-known website… Уголок неба ¦ Сухой Су-24М
https://web.archive.org/web/20160918013859/http://www.sukhoi.org/planes/military/su24mk/lth/
The 1400 km/h limit is most likely a strength limitation for the T-10 family… .
3.We like to confuse people with the names of aircraft…
I mean if they’re heavy, they kinda do?
It’s not like one variant has no equipment.
The avionics are just different models / from different origins.
Weight difference is gonna be minimal, and the biggest factor for top speed is drag (external airframe shape and size), rather than weight.
I mean weight also affects drag you know. Can’t really discount it as a factor. Also aren’t these values just as good as stat card values? It’s not like the Su-30 would fall out of the sky the moment it hits max speed
We are talking about what speed it can reach, not structural limit.
Different equipment (HUD, MFD, RWR, IFF etc) can at most result in a couple of hundred kg of weight difference (if even that; And usually they try to minimize the weight difference to make the change easier).
A couple of hundred kgs of internal weight isn’t gonna change the top speed of a 25 ton aircraft very much …
Like I said, it is not like it falls out of the sky once it reaches top speed
We are not talking about whether it falls or doesn’t fall
We are talking about how much the top speed is … I.e. how fast it can go before it doesn’t accelerate anymore … I.e. Thrust = Drag
and do you think this is a hard limit on the manufacturer end? doesn’t just that mean that Sukhoi can guarantee it’s safety up to 1,100kph?
Also is this taking into account Afterburner thrust or just dry thrust?
Depends
Sometimes the max speed is what the plane can achieve
Sometimes it’s what the manufacturer allows you to go
No way to know without the manual, but we are already in a territory where planes are still in service and manuals are classified …
Afterburner
And where in the brochure does it say that?
That’s what maximum speed means.
If they want to list speed with max dry thrust they will specify it …
Plus, I don’t think Su-34 would hit Mach 1.5 without afterburner :)
But how sure are you that’s what Sukhoi actually means by Max speed on the deck?
That’s what max speed means.
Find me one example where someone lists speed on max dry thrust as “maximum flight speed” without explicitly specifying it … It’s just not how it works …
BTW, that shows you how much the plane is over performing …
It reaches speed at max dry thrust that it should (or shouldn’t) reach with max afterburner thrust
Bug report:
Su-30SM incorrect max speed and service ceiling:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/KGhMbY13pPle
Su-30SM incorrect fuel amount:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VqenkFiPjwE4
Su-30SM incorrect engine mass:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/g1EvTtLc45XR
I like the orange stickers on the nose lol
