Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

[ID_Heaven]

@sudo_su1

UAC’s website not opening is likely related to sanctions etc

Did you tried VPN to spoof your location as Russia? It worked for me some time ago.

[sudo_su1]

@ID_Heaven

Did you tried VPN to spoof your location as Russia? It worked for me some time ago

I don’t have a VPN from Russia to test
But either way, all we need is right there on internet archive

[csla1972]

What you cant open?
ROE normally works for me (Slovakia).

https://roe.ru/production/aviatsionnaya_tekhnika_i_vooruzhenie_vozdushno_kosmicheskikh_sil/

https://roe.ru/production/aviatsionnaya_tekhnika_i_vooruzhenie_vozdushno_kosmicheskikh_sil/samolety/mnogotselevye_istrebiteli_i_istrebiteli_bombardirovshchiki/su_34e/?theme=theme-lightblue

[ID_Heaven]

UAC Russia website.

[csla1972]

Yep…its not working.

[ID_Heaven]

Russian IPs work. Just checked. I am from KZ and it is unavailable, so probably even CIS IPs doesn’t work.

[csla1972]

I will little bit change theme…is M433 Raduga-VM thermal camera?

[ID_Heaven]

You mean Su-34 recon pod?

[csla1972]

Yeah…UKR-OE.

[Anonymous4245]

Weren’t early Su-34 also fitted with non FM1 AL-31s? That would make sense if the export versions also get it.

[meki98]

That looks like major skill issue…
From the missile itself
It did fly way to high and in circles

[sudo_su1]

@Anonymous4245

Weren’t early Su-34 also fitted with non FM1 AL-31s? That would make sense if the export versions also get it

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@sudo_su1

It absolutely does not matter what engine was installed on it. It will not make it go from 1100 kph to 1450 kph on the deck …

Drag is proportional to the velocity squared and a small increase in velocity requires a massive increase in thrust.

But since the Mach 1.45 (From ROE) / 1500 kph (From UAC) at altitude and 1100 kph (From all three sources) on deck figure seems to be with the 125kN engines (as per UAC’s website), the devs could account for the increased thrust (to 135kN) of the better engines.
UAC’s website also lists a 2% reduction for installed thrust. So given that the drag is proportional to the velocity squared:

(135x98%) / (125x98%) = (V2/V1) ^ 2
V2/V1 ~= 1.03923
V2 = 1100 * 1.03923 ~= 1143 kph

So with the 135kN engines (instead of 125kN engines) the speed will increase from 1100 kph to 1143 kph (and NOT 1400 or 1450 kph!)

[sudo_su1]

Bug report:

Russian guided bombs incorrect max release speed:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GXDSC2gueyO0

Given that the minimum release speed is also given, I assume the 1100 kph figure is IAS/EAS.

This would translate to decreased Mach number on the deck but increased Mach number at higher altitudes.

[CaptKaMeLRo]

Gaijin Navy camouflage looks so ewwwwwww

I just wish they add these user-made skins instead.

Spoiler

[DarKBird]

It feels like it also doesn’t load in full resolution. Look how blurry and “square” the roundels and “МА ВМФ РОССИИ” on official one are

[Malekitth]

Gaijin, please give it the upgraded engines, make it SM2 if you want to, because this thing has anaemic acceleration.

İt’s like a sick old man

[ID_Heaven]

Currently SM2 has same engines too.

[Malekitth]

Just make it the version with upgraded engines,

Why must Russia always get buffs after the plane is already garbage and outdated and 3 patches have passed?

Why are western fighters always added as broken UFO’s or flying bullets, but Russian jets must suffer with poor performance and acceleration?

Gaijin gives Russia a good radar finally the jet is a boat, the jet has performance but no radar, etc. Etc.

[TuxedoBird]

snail pls gib blu afterburnr angines for faster nyoom

Also I can’t believe that it still has the Fullback central pylon AND an incorrect slat…

[Anonymous4245]

Multiengine control is still broken
Model still needs fixing
Radar still displays wrong search zone values (only a text problem)
3D texture is rough

Su-33 looks cleaner than it for christ sake