Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

This should be fixed now

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just fixed it lol

You can add these two if you want:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/taGPcFkzMFim
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/65QNdKMOftW9

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@unluckyg yet another bug report for the list

Su-30SM bugged MFD pages



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Found an issue with the Su 30 SM trying to fall into a hover in a few circumstances.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IRp8K58VxFif

Terribly written, but I’m on the verge of passing out so it is what it is.

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ngl, very cool to see the WSO cockpit view of the su30sm

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What its the name of the guy on the back. I remember it have a cool name. In the F-14 was RIO.

WSO

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I would say it is more like a copilot,
He has control over all the systems the guy in the front has as well.
And the second seat is also used for pilot training.

@Temeraire

Tldr hard to say how the Russians are calling it especially if you want to describe it with US/Nato terms

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My bad its not the Nato counterpart of RIO/WSO. But it was a more Colloquial way to called it. It was some kind of animal or something. I’ve try to search it but haven’t found it.

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@BBCRF, Do you know which IRST (OLS) the Su-30SM uses? 36Ш-01? 52Ш? 31Е-МК? Some other version?

Not quite. It uses code chunks from older versions of N001. They probably created the N011M config file about a year ago and used the N001 file as a starting point (at least for IRST stuff). Since then, the IRST on the N001 family has seen a couple changes due to bugs/historical accuracy, but they forgot to update the N011M to incorporate those.

The reason for lower detection range is that older N001 had 5 km all aspect detection range. After a report fix (still nowhere near the required fix, but whatever) it was bumped up to 6 km. MiG-29s did not get that fixe (that is correct). This is why the range of the N011M IRST is now the same as the MiG-29s.

Here are some code snippets to prove that (from my PM to Gunjob):

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Hi, another copy paste issue to report.

The IRST on the N011M of the Su-30SM uses code chunks of the N001 that are at least 10 months old. As a result:

All aspect detection range and beam width use old values

N001 code from 2.35 for comparison:

Scan pattern have fewer bars and have wrong periods (Search is less dense, vertical ACM is much shorter) (Basically all IRST patterns in the `"scanPatterns"` block need updating)

There are are also some code fixes / refactors missing, but I do not know if they are significant

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Would you want me to compile a report or is evidence of code chunks from old patches enough?

I tried to bug report it yesterday, but someone was closing my bug reports without even letting me edit them. Can’t use datamines for bug reports and don’t have sources on the Su-30SM, so now I am stuck because I need to find sources to report what is essentially a copy-paste mistake.

The same issue is now on the Type 1493. They copy pasted MiG-29’s IRST code instead of the N001. Likewise, since there are no sources, I can’t prove it to them that they messed up (well, a tech mod who would carefully read the report and not close it at the first sight of a mistake would be sufficient).

ОЛС 36Ш-01

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Thank you. It is this one, right?

Do you have any brochures stating that it is used on the Su-30SM? Or maybe a brochure with ranges? I want to used it in a bug report.

Oh, do you know what number ОЭПС it is?
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There are no brochures

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Is ОЭПрНК-30СМ also called ОЛС 36Ш-01? Or maybe one is a part of the other?

ПрНК is a sighting and navigation system

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