Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Did they open the dev server again?

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Dev is still closed, but maybe it could be opened again

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From the looks of it the HUD tint looks fixed even from the outside

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God damn ifr bar is still there

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Dev is open btw :D

Su-30SM still doesn’t have HUD Markers

Bad?

Su’s recieved flight model buff not to long ago, they are not as bad as they used to be.

Especially SM since it recieved better engines and additional 2 missiles.

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Worse engines than 27SM, better radar and missiles though

Also NCTR got nerfed, doesn’t show on the MFDs now. So useless in IFF (until gaijin adds IFF in STT)

He’s sayin previous Su models are still shit, i was explaining that not the case anymore for su27’s.

Su-30’s expected to be perform worse in VVR fight due to bein heavier and having worse engines, maybe Gaijin can change the engines in the future it Su30’s performance doesnt satisfy them.

I think its worth. At least you get to practice the TVC. And overall it should be better than 27sm. It also should be as good as Su-34 as a CAS plane.

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there are ppl who are more interested in actual flight performance for 1v1 dueling and for that the su30 is the worst flanker variant

Lol what?

People are saying something about todays dev-server change to the SU30 absolutely ruined it’s flight-model at AoA.

Well the su30sm rn doesn’t pull more than 11gs above mach 1 with min fuel and clean config, at low speeds idk, it feels kinda the same but I don’t have wtrti to test it rn, at least the tvc feels better

recent datamines for the su30sm:

2.44.0.31 → 2.44.0.36 Part 1

2.44.0.31 → 2.44.0.36 Part 2

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it is about low speed with full real controls

Well normal performance sure its worst. But TVC system should give it a edge. And R-77-1 its a little better than R-77. 14.0 material? idk.

Hope these change help with the Yaw problem.

you might think so…
but in a 1v1 dogfight it only makes you bleed all your speed which you dont want at all

that dosent help you in a guns only fight

Su30sm Will not be that bad, even more now that they corrected its oswald coeff… without TVC i guess it would be be slightly worse than the su-33 for wvr, but considering it has TVC it’ll be 100% very competitive while dogfighting.

But for bvr it’ll be by far the best russian jet, it’ll fit the meta pretty well.

You overestimate the use of TVC tbh. It’s quite risky to use it at all

Not saying it’ll be the best but definitely not bad as ppl are saying “oh it’ll lose to a phantom, oh it’s worse than a mig21 frfr” like cmon dude, squishface duel video proved that it can at least give some headache in a dogfight if you use it well…