doing a google search for the empty weight of the su30sm in Russian, 90% of the sites gave the weight as 18,800kg
So, from my understanding, it’s missing weight?
This is with no thrust Vectoring flight performance right ?
yes it is but:
for rate fight performance you dont want / need tvc…
tvc only helps you pulling alot of aoa and loosing all your speed rn,
because you cannot deactivate it
so the charts are favorable towards the su30
Maybe theyre mixing versions?
i dont know
my head is already hurting trying to find a concrete answer
I personally trust BBCRF’s take, since they made the 30SM mod for DCS and likely has more reliable information.
the problem is that people focused on the weight of the su30 that he showed…
but he also commented on improvements that the su30sm could receive…
the problem is that he himself is not willing to make bug reports, it’s complicated to want to nerf the plane nonstop and not be willing to improve it in other parts as well
when someone asked for the sources to improve the su30sm he just laughed and showed the su30 dcs mod…
It came to him in a dream most of the time ))
canard
and without canard
If 30sm performs badly on the live server, we’ll have to use su27sm for one more update D:
I don’t think it will be bad in normal air rb, as long as you still have missiles to defend against planes that are trying to dogfight you, now for duels with guns only? i have no idea, since it’s a worse su33 (with the limiter on) and base on that, it will be pretty bad.
On Dev Server 1v1 Guns only it was mostly wins so far, against F18C, F16C, EF2000
with the limiter on?
F18C on 1 circle i did manage to get the advantage, now i’m not sure about the others, the kills were mostly when i was using TVC, gotta note that it’s not always using it to have the nose at the target immediately it’s also about positioning yourself in the Dogfight which helps alot.
27sm can do everything except it lacks a decent radar, and 30sm without the new engine will be pretty easy to take down if it can’t take down the enemy in 1c
I’m not talking about bvr because i really don’t trust gaijin’s r77 and 77-1 models
so with the limiter off, yeah i was talking about the pure performance of the fm (STR and ITR) with the limiter on
my only problem in the normal air rb (on the dev) was when i had to notch more than 3 missiles with the su30sm, the plane really doesn’t like to maintain any speed D:
