Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

What is the empty weight of the Su-30SM right now?

18.4t according to the datamine

Seems to be accurate then
Su-30MKI is also 18.4 tons empty

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Well, friends, and we continue
The tail boom is not correct
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@ron_2303 did a bug report about the 3D inaccuracies of the su30sm, might be good idea to also include this (the wrong tail and flaperons)

The size of the flaperon is not correct
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What happened to the nose gear?

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Literally spend zero effort in modeling lol

It, honestly, so weird that 30SM having this modeling issues while same Su-33, for isntance, have IIRC correctly modeled area around it canards and wings

Su-33

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(and a screenshot by BBCRF of Su-30SM on dev for comparison)

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Poor QC/QA.

I found a camera on the Su-30SM…

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On the Su-30MKI (ILS ELBIT SU967)…

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SU-30MKI_ELBIT SU967
Снимок экрана 2025-03-03 011126

added it to the bug report

so, i was looking at the current bug reports from the dev server and i found some relevant for the su30sm:

“old” bug reports:

Su-30SM incorrect crew ejection procedure:

“new” bug reports:
Su-30SM bugged MFD pages:

bug reports accepted:

Su-30SM Thrust Vector Control mode incorrect:
R-77-1 seeker range is underperforming:
Su-30SM wrong pilot model:
Su-30SM wrong dispensers model:
Su-30SM 3D model inaccuracies:
Inaccurate J-11B and Su-30SM afterburner:
Su-30 Radar detects and locks onto chaff:
Manoeuvre mode forcing horizontal angle and using rudders:
N011M GMTI Does not Slave Sight Stabilization:
Su-30SM HUD should display curently selected weapon:

fixed:
N011M Bars Datalink Channels:
SU-30SM HUD Inaccuracy:
Su-30’s canopy is bugged:
Su-30SM N011M Bars Radar elevation missing +/- 5 degrees:
Su-30SM incorrectly indicates engine manufacturer AL-31FP:
Su-30SM IFR Training Bar blocks visibility:
SU30SM HUD NOT SHOWING RADAR TARGETS:
SU30SM missing NCTI in cockpit MFDs:
Su-30 incorrect AoA indicator in the HUD:
Su-30SM incorrect HUD indication:

bug reports rejected (not enough info/not a bug):

SU30SM should not have fuel in the vertical stabilizers:
N011M Bars radar incorrect range:
Su-30SM ineffective yaw motion for TVC:
Issues with the new mechanic “Maneuver Mode”:
N011M and Type 1493 use wrong (old) IRST stats:
N011M and Type 1493 use wrong (old) IRST stats, (Take 2):

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damn

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there were other bug reports, but they were less elaborate and others that were accepted, but I didn’t include them either because i didn’t think it was necessary, lol

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How gaijin can even justify this… AIM-7P vs R-77-1. (R77-1 are bleeding speed unrealistically and need to be fixed in DEV) : r/Warthunder

Almost like 1 person actually conducted evasive maneuvers to bleed the missile of energy, while the other flew straight into it like an idiot… strange…

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to be fair, the su30sm shot the r77-1 from 30km away and it was flying very low compared to the f18 at 4000m of alt… it makes sense that the r77-1 couldn’t hit this, it wasted all its energy going up + turning

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Multipath just ate all of his braincells.

Yea that was a terrible shot/play by the flanker. But the missile was already losing way too much speed even before the F-18 did any maneuvers. When the F-18 crank for like 3 second and the R-77-1 lose half it speed.