Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

so as de f14, yet that thing can compete with the 29 which is waay lighter than the f14, the hornet is literally 11,000kg empty weight, the su30sm is something around 17,700kg (empty weight), you saying that the su30 can compete against the hornet just proves that the su30sm should do some crazy stuff, especially with TVC on

yeah sure, but still, is nice to have the extra AoA from the canards+tvc if you need it, tell luque that, he cant preflare apparently lol

F-14 used variable wing to leverage that ability and only in low speed envelope.
We are comparing a Su-30 defeating any gen 4/4.5 aircraft in BFM…I don’t buy it

Yes this is the Su-35 but it’s for comparison

Compare that to the video and it becomes apparent how it is very jerky and will not act like that when finished

Edit: tell me if the GIF isn’t working on your end because the forums suck

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it isn’t for me

not workin

examples of TVC

there is literally a video of a hornet pilot flying against the su30mkm in bfm and he said that he sometimes lost and sometimes won, your point is what exactly? and yes the su30sm is a 4++ gen plane

not working :(

I was just asking if it COULD carry it.

And yes, Typhoon gets the Meteor. Very cool. But very misleading, since the R-37 is for bombers, like the Phoenix, while the Meteor is more comparable to stuff like the AMRAAM.

Should be fixed now @ILuvAnneHathaway @kizvy @unluckyg

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yup works fine now

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I mean yeah sure they can work, I just typically find other ARHs better.

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Yeah there are definitely better choices don’t get me wrong :D

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what about this then? su37 (similar enough airframe compared to the su30sm with also tvc)
also, look how smooth it was to recover from that 360

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Really any video of TVC will highlight how unfinished it is. I chose that GIF because it was a similar movement in the beginning.

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It’s also worth noting that is flown by Sukhoi Jesus. I doubt every Su-35 driver can make their airframe perform like that.

Very impressive though

well this made me laugh for some reason lol

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Пилотаж Аверьяновых на Су-30СМ

Парный пилотаж Аверьяновых Су-30СМ на МАКС 2021

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Su-30SM2 uses both N035 and AL-41F-1S.

There is no dedicated upgrade to the N011M.

Different game, but its interesting to note the pilot is trying their best to replicate real life maneuvers done by various flankers. Even so, it is only a mod. But interesting to see what we could end up with once Gaijin fully tunes the flight model well.

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