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No. I don’t care because when i play the Su-27sm i don’t face underperforming harriers. I face overperforming FIGHTERS. You’re the one coming here saying “Is fine guys. Every plane don’t match it IRL performance. So is fine for the Su-27 to be underpowered.” Totally missing the point that THAT statement implied that in game jets usually overperform. Like in how many G. Rate/climb etc… But not the other way around like in Su-27 case.
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This is going nowhere, Su-27 as other have said is perfectly serviceable is it the best? No
I know for a fact it will never perform how you want it to. You dismiss the 4.5 gen airframes designed 20 years after the Su-27 and think they shouldn’t be superior?
Mate if the Typhoon and Rafale were modelled correctly the Su-27 would be unplayable.
Nice cope. I has always call out that the Su-27sm shouldn’t have be in game or not as a top tier plane. There where better models that could have fit the meta better. But also can’t be denied that the FM was a joke for more than years an gaijin didn’t fix it.
If the plane was that bad IRL i wouldn’t be here. I would just be playing the RAFALE or F-15’s. Because i play almost all the (old) nations. Contrary what bs BIAS claim you pull on me.
Again with BS statement both plane are current flying like UFOs… Also never said that Su-27 should beat them. I have also always said that the only plane that would be contemporary with them its the Su-35s.
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If the SU-27 FM and R-77’s drag was modelled correctly, the Rafale and Typhoon would be unplayable in their current state
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If the Typhoon and Rafale were modeled correctly they would have an AoA limiter.
But gaijin will not add it because the plane would be worse in RB.
Especially the Eurofighter is over performing at slow speeds, do you think an Aircraft is able to do a backflip at 200kph?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/KlPOar3UKvgQ
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Like every other jet, or do you think jets regularly pull 14g…
Or the F-16 that also doesnt have it’s AoA modelled?
F-16 is a forgotten plane unfortunately, they won’t ever change the little ufo.
As of now, i believe the most correct ones are the f15C and mig29, although i believe the 15C slightly underperforms but It should be negligible…
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everything needed to fix this already exists and was even added to the game, they just removed it because of complaints from you know who
instead of adjusting the g limiter to fit the games values, they just removed it, pretty funny…
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Player how understand BVR will use TWS + DL to guide missile to target over on 50km to make sure to get a kill. Missiles shot at you in IOG mode are easy to defend.
Yea that’s true but in most of the time you will meet average players so long shots in BVR are still valid option to get easy kill on start of the match.
Still open
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nLkgSDqLXe8O
Reopened
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/3PKowWppSkF9
No longer relevant as the above report is reopened.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/puuLO3KeqYCE
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Thanks mate
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Cheers.
Do you know if it the open report is being worked on / still in queue / left in limbo?
Did the dev (or whoever asked if the issue was still present) got my response?
Your response was copied over. I can’t say whats currently going on with it thought, just that its open again.
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When a report gets updated like that, does it get pushed to the bottom of the queue (or somewhere else)? Do devs get a notification if a report that they were looking at gets updated?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, just want to avoid the situation where a dev/mod asks for an update on a report and then it gets forgotten for 6 months.
The thing is, the F-16A actually flew pretty well even with the G-limiter as long as you kept it below 900 km/h. After they removed the G-limiter and especially AOA limiter for fly-by-wire fighters you now get funny situations where an F-16 is beating a Su-27 or an F-15 in a sub-500 km/h one-circle fight.
As it currently stands, the A variants of the F-16 and F-15 feel completely different to fly compared to the Cs, so much so that you wouldn’t think they are based on the same platform. the F-16C and F-15C generally adhere to their EM diagrams while the F-16A and F-15A are somewhat overpefoming.
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And some players don’t take this into account and keep saying russian fighters are dogcrap ingame…
When a somewhat accurate vehicle (mig29) fights a overperforming one, obviously it’ll feel worse, but it’s not the russian fighters that should be fixed, it’s the little ufos.
Except the Rafale does have an AoA limiter, which is correctly set. I’m not sure about the Eurofighter. For the Rafale, the only inaccuracies so far for its flight model is lack of supercruise as well as lacking in roll rate capabilities which is a game limitation as devs have stated. So it isn’t fair to bring up the Rafale in this instance.
The F-16 is a different case in where it is pulling AoA that in real life would result in the aircraft spinning out of control and Gaijin has refused to properly implement a realistic AoA limiter in this circumstance.
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