Yeah, I understand.
What I mean is that even with the 45 deg electronic steering + 25 deg mechanical steering only in azimuth, it’s not gonna be that great, compared to e.g. RBE2, which currently gets 70 deg electronic steering in both azimuth and elevation (not sure if realistic), or e.g. APG-83 which will come eventually and gets 60 deg electronic steering in both azimuth and elevation.
(60 degrees seem to be quite typical for ESA radars, and seems to be what Irbis-E gets as well, in terms of purely electronic steering)
I personally don’t, but even if they are, for some reason understating (which I very much doubt) their capabilities on their export brochures (and these are official documents), at the end of the day, these are the sources that Gaijin will use to implement the radar …
So they accidentally add the Kfir C.10 block 60… why? Knowing it was the AESA radar that was the primary upgrade for that specific variant? No… they knew it had an AESA or at the very least knew that the RBE2 was a fantastic PESA radar better than anything else in the game at the time.
Yesterday I missed one message (by the way, interesting information), this is not an export version of Bars, but a Russian later version, because the Su-30SM is indicated, and the Su-30SM was not submitted for export, and the Su-30SME has been in Myanmar since December 2022…
So, in principle, there are no contradictions, this is a newer version…
Do you have a link to this site, not a screenshot, to see the year of publication…
There were no orders, although such an opportunity was present from the very beginning…
An older (2013) version of the NIIP website, Modernization section.
Modernization
At the request of the customer, the BARS radar station can be:
changed the diameter and type of antenna (FAR – AFAR);
The power of the Pcr=1 transmitter has been changed…5 kW.;
the “Air–to–Air” and “Air-to-Surface” automated control systems used by both Russian and foreign customers have been changed;
The internet archive link is above the screenshots.
Currently, it seems that www.niip.ru no longer lists the military products on their website; Not sure why …
I’ve already sorted it out and sent you messages (I didn’t edit the message in the translator)…The publication of the section starts on April 27, 2019.
Did they change the Engine on that Su-27sm2? and if they did what engine did they use on it?. You need more power for a radar like IRBIS. Unless is IRBIS-E that was used on Chinese Su-35s that just work on 5kw instead of the 10kw of Russian Su-35s.
Su 27sm variants in service never had irbis radar, only the sword radar. The only engine upgrade they got was the engine that was added in the last update, unless they want to add some thrust vectoring engine that was not put into service / production models
I MTL the Magazine in the link. And its basically what i have said. Irbis was fly on a SU-30mk2/SU-27SM2 but it use 1kw T/M. So that its really underpower. Maybe on the Range of current radar in game. The magazine also talk how old Su-27’s can’t Use the 5kw T/M. Because their engine don’t produce enough power. And because of that and money they decide to just upgrade old radar for old Su-27’s.
