IRCCM is ECCM…You are electronically countering a system and it is mounted to Russian aircraft.
Yes but that too is historically accurate especially for Chinese J11s. I would not mind if they move J11A down to 13.3 for 2 less R73s.
Not the same thing though. I think that is more akin to the type of system seen on tanks like curtains on T90 series rather than other ECM which targets radars and work in completely different principles.
thats like asking them to model the weight/drag for the ecm pod in german mig21 bis. but its not modelled cus they added it just so they can give it CMs. i dont think they will add the ecm pods for su27 unless they model it.
Real missile;
+17 drag index per R-27
+7 drag index for pylon
Test config increases drag index by 30%
Gaijin missile;
+(none)
“wow it’s overperforming”
YOU DON’T SAY?
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I would love to see the Gripen E, it’s truly an insane aircraft.
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In my country (Brazil) we have the gripen E, it’s an incredible plane and i hope to see one day in WT with this camo:
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Where did you get these numbers from?
Such an index is impossible for the Su-27.
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Looking purely at the performance of the airframe, should the su30sm be better or worse than the su37 terminator? From what I remember, the terminator only had 2D thrust vectoring and the su30sm has 3D thrust vectoring
also, how better or worse will the su30sm be in comparison to the su27sm?
From MiG-29 German air force manual
Well, you’ve got the thrust vectoring and access to a modern weapons set (particularly air-to-ground). Better sensors also.
However it is lumbered with the extra weight/bulk of being a twin-seater. An extra tonne of mass if memory serves over a single-seat Flanker.
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i wonder if we will get a better F-15C or F-15E (new radar) to go with Su-30SM a2a wise
it is the direct counterpart to flanker after all
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No reason why not. The later F-15s get some much nastier weapons/sensor combinations do they not? Any close-range advantage the late-model Flankers have with TVC would be offset by having to avoid the C/D SPAMRAAMs at greater and greater distances.
It’ll suck being uptiered in any case.
I’ve been trying to spade the 29SMT and find it a punishing experience to work my way past the waves of Fakours, Pheonixes, AMRAAMs all before I can get into effective R-77 range. The 12-14 BR bracket is just too heavily compressed and I don’t think Gaijin will expand the BRs enough when these newer jets get added.
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the APG-63v3 on the F-15C allegedly made some F-22 pilots jealous, let alone the APG-82v1 put on strike eagles. Legion pod is much newer, but will give great IRST capabilities. EPAWSS is also new, but will give strike eagles more CM and much better RWR ingame. combined with 120C-5, theyll be great.
vs a sukhoi with R-77-1 and R-73 will be very interesting to see ingame
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What does this have to do with the Su-27?
Same pylon and missile on same kind of mount?
I mean that’s not that bad considering it has thrust vectoring, at low speeds it will be amazing, combining canards + 3D tvc, i’m not sure if it will be better than the EF or the rafale at low speeds, but maybe on the same level as them, I just hope that gaijin doesn’t leave the TVC on all the time and they gives us the option to turn it on and off
tbh having a good radar will be already enough for me, im tired of the damn su27sm radar lol
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does the su-30sm even have a 1:1 thrust to weight at low speed/take off speeds?
The way Gaijin model Canards its going to be probably the best 2nd best jet after the Rafale.
And it wont have a shytey mech scan. Which makes it superior to Typhoons Radar which acts like a 60s Radar
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A lot hinges on how they model the TVC. How they’ve modelled the thrust nozzles on the harriers for example leaves a bit to be desired - but since it is manually enacted by the player it doesn’t matter so much. You can fly around and never touch the nozzle controls all day long if you want.
If it was kicking in every time you made a hard pull irrespective of the airspeed/energy state, I could imagine it would be a real pain in the backside. It would drive you nuts.
Yet that is what Gaijin need to model regarding even a simple 2-plane TVC, much less anything more complex.