Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Su-27 was made for datalink and BVR, while being very good at low speeds.
However, Gripen was also made that way but at the low-weight end of the spectrum while being over 20 years newer in aeronautics design.

I just do not know you can come to the conclusion something is perfectly modelled and then turn around and say broadly it must be affecting ALL missiles.

I guarantee it is not affecting the AAM in this way whatsoever. The missile will smash through a flock of flares to find its target tbh.

The AIM-9L documentation suggests it should not lose track of an afterburning target deploying flares if fired from rear aspect.

The R-73 has more range and a more sensitive seeker than the AIM-9L, as well as a much smaller FoV. It simply should not be decoyed by flares at all against afterburning targets… and to be specific, I recall the testing being done against a Jaguar which isn’t a particularly hot aircraft to begin with.

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been a minute since I played the su-27 in DCS but if thats the case DCS is wrong and just made it up FC3 products are lower quality and have a ton of inaccuracies

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yes I am aware, pretty much all IR missiles underperform in this aspect

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Now tell us, how is the current performance of the R73 have anything to do with other missiles.

How did you come to that conclusion from your unrecorded test flying sessions?

ive asked the B numerical value(B值)means the Maximum overload of stable disk plus maximum overload of instantaneous disk plus 0.03*Residual power but not the trun rate

Im just saying how its configured in the code it accurately represents a crossed array detector, any further inaccuracies are more broadly an IR modelling issue affecting all IR missiles

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You may be 100% correct. Because the Gripen is very hard to kill with any missile tbh.

Additionally, genuine question. Can it be the IR signature of certain aircraft such as the Gripen? Not necessarily an issue of the missile itself?

That’s something new for me, thanks.

Then B factor must be Ps=0 + bit of G of ITR

it comes from 《作战飞机效能评估》by 朱宝鎏

The way warthunder models IR signals is directly proportional to the thrustmax0 line of code of the aircraft, so light fighters with very low thrust engines will have extremely low IR signatures ingame. Its why the F-5C can flare so easily even in full reheat. The Gripen uses a F404 engine which is pretty low thrust compared to a lot of other top tier engines

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Anyway, the graph shows overall maneuverability of F-15 is quite dominating against Su-27

Can you explain in detail? my first language is not english and im not really good at it, so your words make me confused

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yeah, the residual power (it called SEP in that book) of F15 is better, the F100 engine is strong and F15C is lighter than SU27SK

Well, I am glad I got you guys discussing again. I will leave you all to it and just keep posting flanker related anomalies.

Thank you for submitting this.

Probably as insane as 6x ER and 4x 73

but the B value is too general cause it’s just mix three values together, cant show each value independently and correctly, the flight manual is much useful than B value

Maximum overload of stable disk = maximum available G of Sustained turn rate

Maximum overload of instantaneous disk plus 0.03*Residual power = about 3% of excess G of maximum insustained turn rate

This may be answer