I know but Su30Sm implementation shouldnt be so hard, in fact they should’ve give priority to Su30 instead of 34 so we could have recieve our proper fighter with this patch.
Dont get me wrong i love my SU34 but i prefer a proper fighter instead of another Op cas plane.
Doesn’t it have tvc? They cant even properly do delta canards and tvc missiles. This thing might be the most complicated plane they will add in years.
Yeah it’s been quite a while since we actually got a FM change from community input, last time was probably the gripe (F-15E and EFT do not count because it was very soon after dev).
Also with the new engines the overall performance, especially when loaded with missile, has increased massively, with a good radar the SM would really be a menace now. Before when I tried to climb at the match start on average I would get to 10k meters at mach 1.2 and go 600kph IAS after the first notch, now it’s getting to 11-12k meters, mach 1.5 and is above mach 1 after that first notch. It’s basically F-15 level of performance
I believe it has TVC, one thing for sure they need to upgrade their servers and their engines, these new planes and weapon systems cannot be handled by current builds.
Yeah flight performance became really good, it can actually gain speed during turning now, it feels like F15E at this point, lul.
There’s no apparent reason on why the Su-30 wasn’t chosen over the 34, but the Su-30 is not better than the Su-27sm flight performance wise, certainly not now. It’s same thrust but heavier. Instead the Su-30SM imho it’s too modern, not in the sense of too strong, but in the sense that it would be completely made up FM and avionics wise. It’s also better to receive it when more modern weapons arrive imho.
Also I don’t really understand why everyone wants the Su-30SM. Even if we don’t want to look at fulcrums the Su-27M exists and it would suit warthunder better than the su30 imho.
Ye lol.
It is a smidge fishy, though, how good the SEP is at high speed, but we would have to do some actual tests to confirm this.
Imho you are being kind saying fishy lol, it’s extremely likely over performing as it feels like an F-15E as @Panther2995 said… funny thing is that we can’t use those SEP diagrams because apparently they were for the T-10 lol
Trying not to alert the Russian Bias horde (herd might be a better suiting word).
Yeah lmao
Tbh im not complaining, at least we have good flight performance now while lacking proper radar lol.
A tech mod on the Russian forum said that the devs adjusted it to fit in between the T-10 and Su-27SK graphs, as both of have inconsistencies and possible errors, and we don’t have any better sources.
But nonetheless, 12 G at 1200 km/h on the deck with only like 10 km/h speed bleed each second (20 min fuel, clean wing) is above even the T-10’s graphs (which is also in a lighter config), never mind the SK’s.
Agree with that.
Because the patch was for Euro canards and not Russia or the US
Updates should feed everyone tho
And they did USA and Russia both receieved new vehicles just not top tier air additions.
Well i won’t complain much cuz a month before we got the 34 and the 15e so it’s fine
Us already has one of the best top tier jets while russia was suffering patch after patch, even gaijin realized this and buffed SU27SM quite a lot.
Well T-10 has missiles equipped, so drag as his fair share here. Still yeah speed bleed is definitely too good at high speed.
Well, and france, germany, britain and italy lacked proper top tiers. You can argue with UK gripen but 4 darters in air rb aint stellar. Sweden still lacks proper top tier. Now its time for minor nations to eat. Russia will most likely get something next patch with sweden and china. Russia got su-33 and from flying su27 after patch, 13.0 seems to have decent mm, you get bigger payload and really good rwr. It ain’t top tier but for 13.0? Very solid given its br and mm.