Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Well with the eventual addition of the su-30sm that won’t be a problem anymore

I hope so, and SU27M aka Su35 early. I really don’t think R77 is even that bad, but couple that with the radar, it is the worst. I would hope R-77-1/RVV-SD if not R-77-M comes with AMRAAM Cs. I have given up RN with J11A cause it is even worse than Su27SM, I am going to buy it when J11B comes up, which should be next update, which will be a brand new flanker.

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The most important one is range:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nLkgSDqLXe8O
(2 km vs 14 km is a “suggestion”, for some reason)
Also, all IRSTs are missing a parameter for afterburner detection (IR missiles got these added, but IRSTs were left out). The only IRST that has it is Pirate. Wonder why it was not added when they went over my older IRST bug report.

The scan zone is very narrow compared to the limits. This makes it very difficult to spot targets on the IRST interface:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0eLXXSWx2FDc

Then there is this display bug:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RX6wHXSy2rtx

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I don’t really think it’s that bad. People over-exaggerate.

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I think it should just be changed to the SM3

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It’s not bad meta-wise but that’s not the point

The R77 and the FM does make it slightly less effective, especially cause 13.3 practically is 13.7.

I think after ef and rafale single fulcrum what come, it’s mig-35

Skip MiG-29M and MiG-29K?

We have to push on gaijin on fixing radar scan pattern. All “nation mains” because issue that makes russian radars utter trash, plagues every single radar set in the game. Well every exept few exeptions and thats literally FEW.
Everyone will benefit greatly from it.

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At this point to maintain a parity with an actual 4++ jets? Yes.

Still, would love to have 29K (9-41R) and KUB (purely because of it name/abbreviation)

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I wish they add some old variants… Personally the 90s are my limit, I don’t have much interest beyond that era

MiG-29 should have the real life 0.86 oswald coefficient. The FM should be consistent, so like F-15, the same oswald.

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Can we finally say the Flanker is out of beta after a year? 😂

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By most other game standards (except the buggy AAA games of today) - no. By Gaijin standards - this is average patch day level of completeness.

Finally a jet that is known to be nimble at least feels like it. Now they just got to spend a bit of time on the IRST and we golden (not counting bugs affecting multiple aircraft).

You don’t have to tell me, lol. I didn’t say it there because I keep mentioning it every chance I get and I though I would not do it this time and enjoy the rare Wanker W.

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I dont understand why we havent recieved Su-30Sm with this patch, even with fm buff and engine upgrade Su-27Sm still lacks behind due to its trash radar, not to mention Russian aviation has been neglected for a long time in terms of proper fighter addition and this patch was great chance to add proper counterpart.

Guess they are saving Su-30Sm to next uptade with J10B/11B…

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Because it takes time to do these planes and they had barely few weeks to cook this patch. And even then both EF and rafale came in terrible state with broken radars and questionable fms.

I know but Su30Sm implementation shouldnt be so hard, in fact they should’ve give priority to Su30 instead of 34 so we could have recieve our proper fighter with this patch.

Dont get me wrong i love my SU34 but i prefer a proper fighter instead of another Op cas plane.

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Doesn’t it have tvc? They cant even properly do delta canards and tvc missiles. This thing might be the most complicated plane they will add in years.