Su-27SM is going to do much better in WVR if you know how to fly it. Su-33 appears to be a menace at 13.0, but I won’t know for a while, as I have to grind it (not gonna just buy it outright) so I don’t have it spaded and aced yet.
Su-27 feels great for what it is too. Just had a decent match in the J-11 for the first time in forever.
What a great patch man. Not where the FM’s need to be, but better for sure.
no, after all, the SM also stood with other engines
This also means that the su-30sm will not only be super good at bvr but decent at wvr, even more if it gets the TVC…
Yeah. Maaaybe it will fair better in BVR thanks to better radar, but as long as it keeps unchanged R-77 (IIRC they have too much drag on supersonic speeds) it tied to WVR, but TVC and canards can do only this much against European delta canards and Chinese J-10 (well, maybe with superior R-73, as long as it isnt spinning out of control)
I believe they’ll add the 77-1 to the su-30sm, maybe not at release tho
As of now, rafale is brick so you can discard it, i have feeling Su-27 after changes can beat it in BFM.
with RB control?(mouse-pointer)
Really? This sucks
It’s the Eurofighter that seems overtuned right now.
It literally has an ITR close to 35~ degrees per second ingame.
Yep, in sims, its probably better, as flanker was but now, in air rb its pain.
so, thats reason why it worser
tbh im pretty sure gaijin knows the fm they gave it was completely wrong but didnt bother fixing it because “balance”
I’m still wondering what clicked with the devs that they decided to fix the flanker FM.
It’s also kinda funny that the 27sm entered with 10km HMD, 6 R-77, old engines and a bad FM… 6 months later it’s a completely different plane lol, they just need to fix the IRST and radar scan pattern and it might actually become good.
dont forget about the r77 and r73 spin
It’s definitely better than before, but they kinda just brute-force fixed the FM without evaluating what was actually wrong with it in the first place. Now it seems like the Flanker slighty overpeforms in supersonic energy retention.
Oh well, it’s probably the best that we’ll get… Given the limitations.
what’s wrong with it?
backend issues that was somewhat addressed today
i can confirm the r73 still mostly spins
thrust is likely over performing, they are probably still compensating it with extra drag but now less than before. They just decided that 0.4G underperformance at low speed was not really “close enough” given the massive impact it has on SEP but didn’t want to keep editing stuff to fix higher speeds (or they may have chosen to deliberately keep it over performing a bit since it’s still one of the weakest top tier aircraft).
There was a massive wave of feedback on the Russian forum once they discovered they were using a prototype Su-27 manual with erroneous data in favor of the Su-27SK one.
When did the russians find out they were using the t-10 FM?