Sometimes it’s better to take your own advice.
This has more benefit than just some super maneuverability gimmick. It is a good way to improve minimum takeoff and landing distance, which is very important in ACE applications
Wrong. Canards can do this.
Does the F-22 look like it needs short takeoff and landing???
Does the US Airforce look like it has a runway distance problem???
Where in your mind would the Americans decide that the F-22 needs STOL capabilities, over an ability to dogfight against Russian 4th & 5th Generation fighters?
Why would the Americans waste money on thrust vectoring capability for an aircraft that does not need short takeoff and landings? Do you know how much it cost to maintain such a specialized capability?
Yes, thrust vectoring has benefits outside of air to air combat. But it is not the reason why the F-22 has them.
I swear to God these dudes look for any reason to avoid the truth. Even the most absurd.
War, runway damaged. STOL planes will able to take-off.
There is no such concept that exist in US doctrine where war would take place & a need for STOL capability in their most advanced fighter. Nuclear war would take place long before that requirement is ever needed.
If the US Airforce cannot afford to construct or maintain a simple runway for the F-22. It cannot afford to fly & maintain the F-22 in the first place. The F-22 requires an immense amount of service and maintenance, beyond your comprehension.
There are 3 capabilities why the F-22 Raptor is banned by American law for export.
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Its Radar
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Its Stealth properties & aerodynamics.
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Its Engine & Thrust vectoring capabilities.
The US holds supermaneuvrability & the best to itself. It does not sell supermaneuverable aircraft.
The Americans will tell you its a “gimmick” & it’s “useless” in aerial combat & then sell your country lesser F-35s. Propaganda, my boy. Beware of it.
Are you blind? That is literally what A.C.E. is! And I didn’t say STOL, I said shortened takeoff distance. Reducing takeoff and landing roll by 1/2 or even just 1/3 significantly increases the number of alternative locations you can conduct operations.
I also didn’t say anything about the F-22, the YF-23 didn’t have TVC and was the better design.
The NGAD is 100% being designed with ACE in mind
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Lmao it’s well within my comprehension what fighter aircraft maintenance requires
I already told you canards do this.
canards are bad for stealth
Vortex generators do this too.
There are no vortex generators for stealth aircraft?
Stop wasting my time.
Vortex generators are not even close to comparable to TVC when it comes to decreasing takeoff and landing roll. LMAO
How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion?
Wait, how short are you trying to land and take off? How short does the takeoff off & landing of the F-22 need to be that it would necessitate a need for thrust vectoring capability? Again Junior, do you know how much it cost to maintain TVC?
You know you are coping for any reason to lie to yourself that supermaneuvrability is a gimmick.
Did your country buy the F-35 or something?
My mistake, 17.
When have I ever specified the F-22? The only one I referred to was 6th Gen/NGAD as it’s the only one being designed since ACEs introduction.
How short? Any reduction increases the flexibility with which aircraft can be dispersed. Even if it’s still 2/3s the length of without that is a significant benefit.
LMAO
oh ok.
He was referring only to 6th generation the entire time because its the least defined of the two that he can argue.
GG, kid.
Do you have anything to say in regard to the Su-27?
Given how much you’re trying to make a deal of the US… Do you?
Yeah, it’s an amazing aircraft. An aircraft that necessitated the development of the US 5th generation F-22.
Specifically, its close quarter supermaneuvrability.
That is why the F-22 is capable.
That’s certainly a take. Wrong, but a take nonetheless.
Why else is the F-22 Raptor supermaneuverable? To fight the British Tornado?
If I source this right now, then what?
Guess I don’t have to… Hey, I do appreciate your opinion regarding 6th generation ACE applications though!
@Smin1080p can you clarify for Ziggy that the tech mods often post the internal developer reply to a report and aren’t just making stuff up?
Additionally, is TrickZZter not a legal gaijin representative of some sort?
Also maybe something can be done about his discussion skills. Forum mods dropping the ball on this one, he’s only been banned like four times and even ban evaded once (but was caught and seems like nothing was done?)
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