The F-14 also has vents above the intakes on the back and predated the MiG-29 by a decade. The SR-71 had overpressure relief doors similarly and was flying since '64…
Nothing about the F-22 suggests it was copied or used from the MiG-29.
They do not open up and close based on angle of attack and close flush like the Mig-29, Su-27 & F-22
That is why they are called intake louvers. Not “overpressure doors” lol.
Look you do not even know what you are talking about first they are, then they are not, then they are intakes but the F-14 has them???
The Su-27s are located on the front when flown and face optimally in angle of attack. That is why they open in ANGLE OF ATTACK.
The MiG-29 and Su-27 manuals are public, please show me how they open based on angle of attack? What is the schedule for their opening / closing?
Let me also remind you that the vents you pointed to on the Su-27 are not part of an intake grill and the overpressure doors on the F-22 cannot function as you’ve described.
You’re spouting unsourced nonsense and want sources to debunk you…
Not suprisingly, a lot of Russian aircraft fanboys. Though I did not mean a statement made here, just a similar false comparison.
This is provably false, though I will give you some leeway since you may be conflating something. The Su-27 has a much better T/W ratio than the legacy Hornet, but due to the properties of momentum, I would conclude the Hornet has less issues during high AoA instances of flight.
This is actually controlled by the variable inlet ramp instead of relying on the bleed air door.
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You need to show why they do not & how GJ got it wrong for the Su-27 & Mig-29.
Did GJ model them wrong yes, or no?
It’s a simple question. Just answer it so I can blow you up with sources.
I respect that.
I didn’t call them intakes, I said they are vents above the intakes in reference to overpressure relief which would imply an exhaust. That’s why they face the rear.
Only to be promptly blocked by the FOD door? What are you even claiming here?
(F-18C w/ GE-402 engines, the improved ones)
F-18C has a empty T/W of ~1.6
Su-27 has a empty T/W of ~1.4
On 50% internal fuel the F-18C has a T/W of 1.25
On 50% internal fuel the Su-27 has a T/W of 1.10
So no, the F-18 has better power to weight in most relevant conditions. It’s just slow because it has higher drag by design.
You did. You just do not remember because you are lying so much you forgot.
Sounds like you know the answer and have sources to back them up… But if that was the case you wouldn’t be making these absurd statements.
That was in reference to the mig-29 which indeed has auxiliary intakes… Nothing to do with F-14.
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You drop it down & the Su-27 murders the F-18. You know how much fuel the Su27 carries little guy?
I do not understand why you cannot answer the question did GJ model the Su-27 & Mig-29, wrong yes or no?
Well I do, its because you actually have no idea lol.
50% internal fuel for Su-27 is a horrible comparison it is supposed to dogfight at no more than 30% lol
so ++ to zig for that coz wtf did u expect
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For real, who picks 50% for an aircraft that hold a tremendous amount of fuel???
You put them in dogfight fuel states or min fuel. Those Saturn engines are taking you to the moon.
Mig-29??? forget about it.
30% fuel for the Su-27 is ~2,820kg of fuel
With that much fuel on both planes (benefitting the Su-27)…
F-18C w/ 2,820kg fuel: TWR of 1.21
Su-27 w/ 2,820kg fuel: TWR of 1.21
Interesting… So the Su-27 needs the F-18C to have a higher percentage fuel load to match its’ T/W… But which one of these is the fighter with “low T/W”?
At no point outside of vastly uneven comparisons does the Su-27 really beat out the F-18C in power to weight.
But you then said they are not intakes lol
This guy is all over the place lol.
Stop misquoting what I said. The F-22s vents open to the rear, as does the F-14 and SR-71s.
You claimed the F-22s were copied from the MiG-29 and that they were auxiliary intakes. This isn’t the case.
Anyone can just click on the little arrow top right of your post if they need to see more context. Stop the antics.
Yay more of his math. LMFAO
Are the animations correct? I don’t know I haven’t looked. Are you wrong? Absolutely. The vents you have been referring to on the Su-27 do not function the same way as the intakes on the MiG-29.
Ah I see. You don’t know if the intake louvers open in flight for the Su-27 or Mig-29 at angles of attack…
But you are certain I am wrong though?
lol dude you are obsessed. Its a little scary tbh.
GG boys gtg. This was funny.
They don’t function the same… GJ seems to agree with me… ENJOY!
A couple videos of these ‘intakes’ as you’ve referred to them on the Su-27 from the game does not validate anything you’ve said. You even claimed the F-22’s pressure relief doors were intakes.
Just provide a source that agrees with what you’re claiming. The schedules for the operation of these parts of the intake is in the respective manuals for the MiG-29 and the Su-27. They do not function as you claim.
I found where my math error was. I took gross weight only, not empty + fuel weight.
Are these publicly searchable or have they been posted here?
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