They are generally pretty close. Depending on the airframe they will remove one of the fuel tanks for the additional cockpit space.
They function identically in-game
Su-24, Su-25 pilots in the photos. Maybe they aren’t issued G suit on account of what they’re flying. Do A-10 pilots get G suit?
yes.
I know russian pilots get a G-suit, I just dk if it’s the half pants only Gsuit or the full body undersuit one (VKK?)
Okay it’s the bottom only g suit it seems
I mean, that’s kind of implied by “locks onto the target while still mounted on the helicopter”.
And that’s essentially the main point of helicopters to begin with … It’s not like we are talking about strategic bombers.
From ROE website:
Optional man in the loop in the terminal phase is nothing new … Doesn’t mean the seeker can’t track moving targets …
If you can send back a video feed to the operator and have the operator guide the missile in terminal phase towards a moving target, there’s no reason why you can’t do that with an automated algorithm onboard the missile …
It’s not like we are talking about old missiles from the era when computers were the size of a house …
3 Likes
I have seen LMUR used in FNF mode to hit buildings/UA positions I have not seen LMUR used to hit moving tanks and vehicles.
I have seen Ataka, Vikhrs but not LMUR.
The developer of the missile says the missile will fly to a predetermined or set coordinates. No mention of it able make necessary adjustments to or corrections to track targets.
If the missile could reliably track a moving target autonomously then Russia would likely promote it.
I agree though Russian technology is shrouded
TBF I think this is more attributed to the heavy AA environment near the front more than anything. That’s why both sides basically stuck to FPV drones (the one publicized that is)
Also it’s kind of useless against tanks because it only has a 25kg HE warhead for now
Man in the loop is for laser designation.
An FSB/SSO team or even a drone to guide.
Yes the missile is locked from the helicopter that doesnt mean it automatically can track a moving target.
The pilot will designate a target and launch it the missile will fly to that location and then look for the target if that target is not in the seeker field?
Automated algotyths is a bit of a cop out.
You’re literally describing Semi-Active Laser homing, Man-in-the-loop is basically what the Spike NLOS does
Edit: I’m guessing the video was a no-no
That missile hits a stationary target, yes it selects through multiple we dont know if that is the missile or the operator though.
The final target it engages is stationary
Not a Leopard 2A6 travelling at 40kph in Kursk.
Because it’s not meant for tanks. Because it only has an HE warhead. For now anyways
Also you can literally see the cursor in the video, and gunner of the Ka-52 is more than capable of steering that
This ignores factors such as cost, which a Lancet or cheap fpv can do the job better because they have a HEAT warhead
25kg HE should be fairly effective against light vehicles
And even against tanks it will most likely cripple the tank and possibly destroy it if you hit top side
But a $50 drone from aliexpress with a mcgyvered PG-7V warhead is just as effective.
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
3 Likes
Is that a LMUR I hadnt seen this footage.
We also cannot confirm if it is being guided by the operator?
Cool footage though and thats a very slow moving tank
It’s meant for all targets it gives Mi 28 and Ka 52m a stand off attack capability.
Yes it is. I saw that footage as well.
Because it’s one of only 3 MITL munitions Russia publicly has
(Kh-59, Lancet, LMUR if you’re curious)
1 Like
You only get 2 max though. Unless Ka-52 and Mi-28 integrated the datalink, you sacrifice 1 atgm pylon for the datalink pod. Not that useful but better than nothing I guess?
Datalink pod? AS-BPLA pod?