Which is useless information compared to effective range
I am of course relying on my experience in firing and dodging AIM-120, MICA and R-77-1 in game and am giving you the conclusion I cale up with.
No more no less.
As I said the statcard as well as Irl performance seem to confirm my perception.
If the code were to disprove my conclusion I would have failed considerably in weighing the situations in which I fired or had to defeat the discussed missiles.
Surely a possibility but I do not think that is the case. I expect AIM-120C is at the horizon.
So you would say that R-77-1 is the better missile either way since it is more relevant at the ranges we are firing at in game usually?
To what?
Useless post.
AIM-120 obviously.
Not particularly, better in some situations, worse in others. Its an improvement over the R-77, but that’s a low bar.
Much closer to the aim120 than the R-77. Like the R-77, better than it in short ranges, worse at medium-long ranges.
Useful as a tool to force the enemy into defending where the R-27’s secure the kills, but you can do that with even the R-77’s.
R-77-1 beats AIM-120 at short range, at medium range and what counts for as long range in game.
At the point AIM-120 is beating R-77-1 in range you would only hit an afk player.
Not to mention that you have twice the amount of missisiles.
On SU-27SM and older Flankers R-27ER is a substitude and very useful for many scenarios.
But on SU-30 you only need R-77-1 due to it’s efficiency.
R-27ER is still versatile but at the point others come in to play keeping the lock endangers you.
The irony there is the massive energy loss from drag from even basic defensive flying means the target would have to be afk for the R-77-1 to “beat” the aim120 at medium-long ranges.
Again, no. Its an R-77 with 1 second of extra fuel.
You can keep them defensive until you close the distance for an R-73, or you can skip all that and followup the 1st R-77-1 with an R-27ER.
Not relying on smaller, less powerful fox 3 radars, and forcing them to notch two missiles from two directions.
Or if they run, they also get an R-27ER/ET.
What ranges are you talking about exactly?
1 second extra burn allows it to pull more G though and get to the interception point faster. Which the 120 cannot do.
Yes in BVR 40km shots 120 is better, at 20km and below it’s R-77-1
Sadly for NATO players the 120 will never have the level of cm rejection and lethality it would have in reality.
Even the C model will not allow the 120 to perform as well as the R-77-1. edit (the C5 does have HOB capabilty)
Depends on the situation. Might start around 20km to force them defensive early. Depends on what they’re doing and how many other targets are around them.
The weaker engines of the Su-30SM tend to put you behind your faster teammates, so also depends on what your teammates are doing.
Inside 20km if there’s room to breathe.
And then sometimes they get in early outside that 20km and plans have to change, have to retaliate and defend, before turning back in. Which can mean the R-27 is the 3rd missile instead of the 2nd.
Sometimes they turn around and run, so swap to IRST if you can and run them down.
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On 20km R-77-1 does not suffer from inferior range.
I would say that AIM-120 is not pulling past R-77-1 on those ranges…
If the target is notching properly it is safe. If it doesn’t it is dead either way.
20Km is nothing.
The motor burns out after around ~5km, where its very easy to bleed of all its speed by defensive flying.
If they aren’t defending, then they’re afk. Or worse.
But again, its not there to kill them, its there to make them vulnerable to the R-27’s.
Not really an issue at a mere 20km.
Biggest advantage of R-77-1 is being able to pressure people at 35+ km just like AIM-120 while being a pretty much guaranteed kill at shorter ranges where AIM-120 wont be able to compete.
Which part?
Yes … Yes … But I’m gonna do it anyways because it’s fun …
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Huh?
Which part is not an issue?