fair enough.
UK already has enough tanks from several nations. No way.
Despite the fact that they did add a German crewed 2A4M CAN. Germany never used that variant, as far as I know. Hence, the CAN in the name as the add-on amour is part of the “M CAN” (tho you already know this as I go on about it), as iirc Canada is the only user of this upgrade package.
Did they use a 2A4M? Likely after all, it is just thicker floor armour. Either way, Germany has plenty of domestically operated Leos it could have gotten instead.
2A4M has 2A4 armor profile thats currently sitting at 12.0. The wedges on turret are comsetic (well not really cosmetic but in WT terms they are), and the composite screens do nothing for tanks protection. Only objective armor improvement over 2A4 is the additional MEXAS armor on UFP, which still lacks the beak.
Thats completly fair.
I agree with you on this.
They couldve added different Leo 2 variant as new top tier premium. As for keeping 2A4M, im indifferent on that one. I certainly wouldnt mourn its departure from german TT.
That I agree with.
yes, thats annoying and I wouldnt wish that to any nation.
well not complete, but there are certainly vehicles that became unaviable for new purchases after release of their respective TTs.
US Magac 3 premium, UK Strv 81 with SS.11 missiles, UK Shotkal, French Vatour IDF and prolly couple more I missed.
Difference with Italy is that Warthunder at that time was relatively new game with much more limited scope. I dont see this happening currently.
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Duplicate of an existing thread.
Shiuld just get closed down
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Camada is not a sub tree.
There is no sense
U get indiant mbts , planes and south african stuff.
Variety is covered, leopards arent needed.
It does so in germany as well
It does so in germany as well
Tldr no letigimate reason named for the addition of canadian leos to UK
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Who’s that guy ?
: P
The mighty Commonwealth tank line that was added
I wonder what top tier tanks could go in that line (The Arjun will never be top tier)
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Wow bud you were almost late to the thread this time.
Leopards aside, Canada is being treated badly in a way most other nations are not.
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T 90s.
Australian redback.
Future indian tank projects
Jordanian challengers i am not sure if those would go to export.
But generaly not all lines need to provide top tier stuff
Poland, spain. Iran, australia , austria and so on.
Canada aint special mate
Canada aint entitled to special treatment
- Poland; 2/3 66% of vehicles in one TT
- Spain; 2 vehicles, 2 TTs 50%
- Iran; 1/1 US TT, 100% in one TT
- Australia; 16/17 UK TT, 94% in one TT
- Austria; 2 vehicles, 2 TTs 50%
I don’t know what point you’re trying to prove, these aren’t very good examples.
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So canada is entitled to better trearment then other nations that got split?
You think yoirself better then anyone else?
You don’t make a commonwealth line and then add nothing to it
None of the Indian stuff can be top tier
The best they have is the Arjun which is a worse 2A4 with Kontact 5 and the T-90S mk3 which only improvement is commander thermals
So looking at the Hornets they have added i think the writing is on the wall
Are you trying to start a fight about it? Calm your tits.
Eliminating the very minor operators which have only 1 or 2 vehicles and can understandably be split between TTs, we can classify operator nations by size (official subtrees highlighted);
- 3-5 vehicles
- Turkey (3)
- Poland (3)
- Denmark (3) (all 3 in Sweden)
- Czechia (4) (all 4 in USSR)
- Argentina (4) (all 4 in Germany)
- Pakistan (5) (CHINA)
- 6-9 vehicles
- Norway (6) (SWEDEN)
- India (7) (UK)
- Switzerland (8) (GERMANY)
- 10+ vehicles
- Belgium (10) (FRANCE)
- Romania (12) (ITALY)
- The Netherlands (14) (FRANCE)
- Thailand (17) (JAPAN)
- Canada (17)
- Australia (17)
- South Africa (23) (UK)
- Finland (43) (SWEDEN)
etc.
You may notice that Canada and Australia in particular are significant outliers in that they both have a large number of vehicles in game, but are not officially designated subtrees. This actually runs counter to the demonstrated norm within the game, and exactly opposite from the incorrect opinion you just voiced.
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sadly.
First of all u misquoted the whole thing.
Its the export mbt and commpnwealth line.
Your jordanian challengers and so on go there.
Its said that after vickers mk 1 is those things
I guess the rooikats. Badger are not commonwealth vehicles.
Possible additions include australian redback.
Australian boxer crv that have no place to go currently.
No where is it said it meeds to get top tier additions. And its already a commonwealth line since it has commomwealth vehicles.
You are misinterpreting to much into the wording
So u are proving me right that you are saying the future of tjose nations doesnt matter and canada is entitled to better treatment?
It doesnr matter how “minor” a nation is.
You are trying to force your opinion trough.
While others suffer
Yes, and smin specialy said since then multiple times. The commonwealrh line doesnt mean all vejicles get added their.
Cause UK doesnt need canada.
Air and ground are different matters. Since air is more lose and kot line up depended in the first place.
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This is an absolutely disingenuous argument; in a perfect world every nation would be on an equal footing and have an independent TT, but we work with what we have. No, Canada is not “entitled to better treatment”, we should strive towards an equal system and address the greatest need first, which is why the status of the two nations I just highlighted with a combined inventory of 34 vehicles should be addressed.
Did you want Argentina as an official subtree for Germany? It’s as easy as Gaijin writing an ✨ announcement ✨
As for need, we’re seeing mockups like the Chieftain 900 being added instead of real service vehicles, so yeah it’s not that great over here. Feels like the requests and reports of the community are consistently disregarded in favour of gaslighting us towards accepting what was already planned.
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