no not really the F22 has a good bit of ground attack history. and the only people who say the SU57 got a air to air kill is the bulgarian military (heavily russian biased) so dont think that is true either. everything that guy said either has no evidence (a lie) or just insulting people after doing 2 minutes of research proves him wrong
I know it got air to ground capability, just said that most of the time its the f35 that is selected for cas and air to ground mission.
F22s were bombing stuff before F35 entered service
okay ? doesnt change the fact that the f35 is always the first choice.
but it isnt?
how could it be the first choice before it existed
now it maybe is but that wasnt always the case, and the comment is about operational history
even before f35, f15 was the first choice.
f22 was always for air control / interception.
doesnt change the fact that it has preformed a significant amount of strike missions
also in terms of missions flown SU-57 doesnt even come close even without including training
what do you mean by that exactly ?
its very simple
the F-22 has flown a lot more missions than Su-57, even excluding training
including intercepts, CAP, and Strike missions
well that for from a 25 years old plane i mean what do you expect.
su57 has been astive only after the ukraine war, around start of 2024. 2 year of being active has done more than the avrage combat plane.
it hasnt though, like at all
the only thing it has been confirmed to have done is launch stand off weapons from a safe distance
well a lot of things are not confirmed. the thing that i know 80% or more sure that su57 has done is
- sead
- recon
- destroy himars with drone ( still need more confirmation )
- putting good work agains modern sams ( kh69 )
only down side is no air to air kills.
I very much doubt two of those
which one ?
Su57 has done a decent combat record, even though there arent many of them, which is good.
But i would consider being seen on the frontline of a quite contested airspace defended by patriots, s300 and iris t slm, while still doing multiple strikes a higher quality combat than launching strikes against some people who dont even have air defense, other than some manpads or makeshift r27t trucks.
Imo f35 has the highest combat record, then Su-57, then F-22, then j20 and j35 (not implying they are bad, they are quite great actually)
recon, definitely didnt happen due to other platfoms doing that much better (it doesnt even have particularly good optics for that)
and ive not seen any evidence for it destroying a himars, which also shouldnt really be a separate category from the other cruise missile one
some ukrainian planes’ve already been shot down while nato ground radars and awacs didnt pick up a single sukhoi or mig31 nearby, some outlets are crediting those kills to the su57, its happened several times, against g2a batteries, aerial targets, and infrastructure, what would have taken down those planes? schrödingers philosophy, a bird? weather? who knows, maybe the only stealth plane in russias inventory
