First, on October 15, 2022, the outlet reported that the Ukrainian Su-27 and Su-24MR aircraft were indeed shot down at a 217km range, but by the Russian S-400 air defense system. Hitting Su-27 by the air defense system is also mentioned in the official report by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated October 13 [it contains no information about Su-24MR].
The other day, a Russian Telegram channel shared a publication saying that Su-57 fighters of the Russian Air Force allegedly destroyed Ukrainian aircraft with R-37M long-range air-to-air missile
Take the L. Your source which is russian bot telegram trashed by rus MOD
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well I dont think the conversation should be about some news on the war, maybe we should stick to the topic…
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gets proven wrong; suddenly doesn’t want to talk about it anymore
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you can’t just assume everything your opposition says is fake, Russia wouldn’t just lie like this on the world stage. It certainly wouldn’t have acquired a deal for over a dozen Algerian Su-57s if it did and potentially an Indian contract. This isn’t 1970s anymore, memes and jokes are exaggerated. Real life doesn’t work the way you think it does. This is real and valid technology statistics, but are you really gonna say that the side radars are plastic and fake? I mean come on?
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yet i just gave perfect proof for the earlier claims* being fake. check the above reply.
I didnt approve or deny your claim I just said we shouldnt switch the topic
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who brought it up at first?
Superior Algerian state buy superior technology always comrade.
(They are not trustworthy with good equipment)
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grow up
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I am grown thanks for the remark however.
Just be real professional analysts from dozens of nations have done extremely intensive and thorough investigations on how good the Su 57 is and guess what
They deemed it a bad copy
Let me guess. They working for Lockheed Martin ?
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Nah literally like every major security analyst department from like every country.
Tell me what they did to mask the SU57s engine blades to radar again
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I do I just was lazy to find proper source, seems like that one was spun by media. If I can’t find proper source I will admit I was faked by Russian government. but I have to go right now, also one thing is claiming that an event happened and another is claiming that your vehicle and systems have this and that capability on the world stage for nearly 2 decades. Because such argument could be said about America and it’s corruption, who can really 100% physically actually prove that what either country claims are ACTUALLY true? I do believe the bvr kill is real, but I’ll find later. just because that article said about Russian telegram it doesn’t mean it’s actually true, as a reasonable and intellectual person with no hate within them like yourself would agree that media lies and spins. There are many videos and sources on the Internet covering this, i just ask for a break for me to do things I have to do before revisiting this topic tomorrow.
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so you rather believe telegram kids than ur favorite ministry of defense and youre so sure the internet is full of videos and sources and everything for something that didn’t happen, without actually seeing any.
have a good night
So it’s just feeding the AN/ALR-94 tracking data from every direction?
can you provide source? that is a crazy claim.
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Also the Su-57M has received its original production engine with flat serrated nozzles not only more stealthy but also features to allow better post exhaust air mixture to decrease heat signature.
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Like your rage bait claims are not…
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So they couldn’t just manage to make S ducting they need to put chicken wire over it.
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Nice to hear they almost caught up with F-117 stealth techniques :)
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