also in terms of missions flown SU-57 doesnt even come close even without including training
what do you mean by that exactly ?
its very simple
the F-22 has flown a lot more missions than Su-57, even excluding training
including intercepts, CAP, and Strike missions
well that for from a 25 years old plane i mean what do you expect.
su57 has been astive only after the ukraine war, around start of 2024. 2 year of being active has done more than the avrage combat plane.
it hasnt though, like at all
the only thing it has been confirmed to have done is launch stand off weapons from a safe distance
well a lot of things are not confirmed. the thing that i know 80% or more sure that su57 has done is
- sead
- recon
- destroy himars with drone ( still need more confirmation )
- putting good work agains modern sams ( kh69 )
only down side is no air to air kills.
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I very much doubt two of those
which one ?
Su57 has done a decent combat record, even though there arent many of them, which is good.
But i would consider being seen on the frontline of a quite contested airspace defended by patriots, s300 and iris t slm, while still doing multiple strikes a higher quality combat than launching strikes against some people who dont even have air defense, other than some manpads or makeshift r27t trucks.
Imo f35 has the highest combat record, then Su-57, then F-22, then j20 and j35 (not implying they are bad, they are quite great actually)
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recon, definitely didnt happen due to other platfoms doing that much better (it doesnt even have particularly good optics for that)
and ive not seen any evidence for it destroying a himars, which also shouldnt really be a separate category from the other cruise missile one
some ukrainian planes’ve already been shot down while nato ground radars and awacs didnt pick up a single sukhoi or mig31 nearby, some outlets are crediting those kills to the su57, its happened several times, against g2a batteries, aerial targets, and infrastructure, what would have taken down those planes? schrödingers philosophy, a bird? weather? who knows, maybe the only stealth plane in russias inventory
you can not trust it or believe thats on you, i think it happen and the s71m was used. if you think i am worng, feel free to tell me what this weapon could be
only other i can think of is the su34 or the M-55
The only recon i can think of for su57 is detection of radar emissions fron sams, since its electronics are much better than the ones on the su34 and su35.
could be also radar detection seeing how A-50 awacs has done badly
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Also from my reputable sources, that probably was not a s71…
alright nice to know, thanks
I am not sure what it is, but I doubt it is s71m
look at the wing cord, on the weapon mounted to the Su-57, the cord is noticeably less than the width of the body (you cant see the trailing edge of the other side wing in either image), while in the video the chord is noticeably longer than the width of the body
also that video has a very significant jump cut, and picks back up in a different place (and looks like slightly lower quality); hard to tell if its just down the road or two different videos spliced
drones and satellites, they are definitely not sending a very expensive manned platform close to the front lines at high enough altitude for recon
Probably bm-35 or geran 3/4, not su57 related
Wouldnt be suprised if it provides sam locations via radar emmision detections for other platforms for SEAD purposes, su34 electronics are quite bad.
maybe? but I would think A50 or other similar more dedicated platforms would do that