Depends on map and how well you hide, didnt say it has to be an apartment.
Depending on BR and vehicle it is. If plane isnt expecting you after it already has approached battlefield without missiles you have advantage of suprise attack.
The SPAA is the apartmant complex. You know, it is an analogy, that they ar big in size.
Might this, might that.
The sad truth is, that a plane is ALWAYS in advantage. Yes, you might shoot them down, until someone realizes, that they can just drop their robot dildos from outside your SPAA range. And then what?
I know, you die.
The very top tier ones are that size for sure. But around su25 br, they can be pretty small
True. Personally, i sometimes just main spaa when i feel like chilling.
I use spaa and/or fighters and it works for me. Spaa at higher tiers and fighters for low/mid tier
It was meant to be an obvious joke.
SPAA is not reliable, and i don’t want to play with planes.
Air players don’t have to grind 2 additional tech trees to be competetive, nor do the have to use a specialized vehicle to protect them from other vehicle classes.
I just want the exact same thing.
CAS is just simply unfair, and requires zero skill to be played.
High tier, 8.0+, spaa work well for me. Dont know what else to say.
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Works for you. Does that means that it works fine every time for everyone?
I can make the argument on awful tanks, that “needs no buff, works fine for me”. Does that makes the problem go away?
Yup. And just like the m51 thread, just because you struggle with it doesnt mean that it sucks or the other vehicle is op.
If the missle spaa were really bad, they would be moved down. Gun spaa have a harder time to balance due to people seeing an ap belt and going td mode.
The rewards you get for shooting down a plane are absolutely crap
Very true. They need a rework.
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Funny cuz I seen a lot of people complain they can’t CAS with the Su-25s while others complain Su-25s dominating and tankers can’t do anything. Idk man, but sounds to me no one using SAMs right or SPAAGs. Can’t please everyone so if you don’t have SAM, get one. If not, use anti-CAS jet fighter. idk, so many ways to go about this and try to win.
- There is skill required! Many that have the skills and knowledge dive to fly low as they spawn to avoid being seen, then according to scouting, being marked on map, or ally intelligence, CAS will go directly to it or aim for the SAM if there are any at the spawn. Those tankers will complain about CAS cuz of it.
- Those who don’t have the skills or knowledge will just fly straight or up, exposing themselves to SAMs like Type 81 C. Those complain about not being able to do CAS cuz of it.
So either learn to use a SAM/SPAAG by finding good positions or learn to fly to CAS or to kill CAS.
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I think we should look at the problem from different perspective - rewards for both playing CAS and playing agains CAS in ground RB are way to low. I remember times when getting like 1 ground kill in CAS was enough to keep your aviation tree in line with your ground tree while playing ground RB. Now the rewards are so low that you either need to play air RB or buy a premium to remedy that. And so we get in to this loop where people are getting agry at CAS because they have no tools to counter it (they dont have fighters, they have low tier SPAA because the rewards for playing SPAA are just too low ) and they either need to buy themselves something to try to be competitve (I myself tried that solution, but then I realised that flying phantom with dumb bombs in game where f16/migs can nuke you from outside of your render range is not really fun), or they play without SPAA/CAS, get angry, start topic on forum, and so on.
My ideas (would be cool if at least some of them would be implemented);
-make SPAA more expensive to spawn but massively buff rewards for shoting planes;
-make CAS more expensive to spawn but buff rewards for getting kills and massively buff rewards for getting air kills;
-mark some lines in air trees as dedicated CAS for ground, those would get bonus rewards for playing ground RB with them, but research would be boosted only when you grinding vehicles in that line (from what I know, most CAS/bombers in air RB are usless so you might as well dedicate them to ground RB) so that you can keep your lineups competitve. If you think about it it would also make air rb players happy because they would not complain about PVE turists (like myself) that only play it to have some sort of CAS.
-on topic, they could do something about CAS casually tanking 3 missiles and still beeing able to fly (same goes for helis, ive seen KA50 flying perfectly well without tail, if it can fly without then why its there in the first place)
I think CAS is cool element of this game but it needs to change because some games make me wanna do something yo myself that would make my post flagged.
Are you not able to go 5 minutes without referencing someone’s stats to try and dismiss their argument?
So 226-224 is .59. Some interesting math skills there.
You can’t learn to play something if you get outranged by the things you’re supposed to shoot down.
What’s even funnier is, he straight ignores my Adats and uses my overall. Because apparently the abrams is also an AA gun.
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Stick him on ignore. The muppet only plays Arcade so is virtually farting around in a totally different game.
Don’t mention that last bit though - he gets a bit defensive and toys are rapidly hurled out of the pram. Usually in the
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This “it workes for me so it is not bad” this is such a BS.
I had 14 kills in a stock M48 in a full uptier. I could say it is perfectly fine, but no. If the enemy goes full retard on me, then i can get those kills. If they were even a bit better, i would not have had a single kill there.
Same with yesterday with the chinese PT76, i got 14 kills. Does it means that the tank is some super good tank? No. It is still super bad. I just happened to get into a match where i could do it.
The issue is, that against tanks, those are useless. And when the enemy has all the caps, and you are pushed back, you just simply can not affor an SPAA. There, you need tanks, to destroy the enemy tanks, so you can go cap. But, (and let’s just grant here, that SPAA is effective) if you don’t spawn SPAA, then you get hammered from the air too.
Don’t you see the catch 22 here?
Ah yes, i love this “argument”. So i, who only wants to fight tankers, need to grind 2 additional tech trees to be effective.
While Air players have their own dedicated mode.
We are just asking for a separate mode too.
There is literally zero skill. I am as bad pilot as it gets, yet even i can get kills easier in planes, than i would get kills with an Object 279 against reserve tier france. And here, i am not joking.
The guy with a metric gigaton of skill issue says to others “skill issue”.
I would not have done it, if the guy would not have said such things, while he himself has it :)
Bet. Let’s play. You play planes and I will play AA. Just tell me what BR.
I don’t have planes.
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For realistic matches