Stingray II

I dont see it as bad, as its no better then the Stingray 1, as it just has additional Armor, wich decreses its speed.

Yeah, the hp/t took a serious hit, but it also gets better optics and access to improved ammunition as a tradeoff.

Unfortunately, I don’t see any probability of the Stingray II getting its planned 650 hp engine in-game, since it never actually used a substitute engine like the 120S didn’t with its uprated engine.

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Well thats to bad, but i dont think the Stingray 1 is that bad compared to the Stingray 2

“only additional armour” mate please actually read the suggestion

mate, read what i said here:

and what @Nostalgistic said to me:

if i got something wrong, just explain it to me please

It has a better transmission for a higher top speed. The engine is upgraded to 550hp (and there’s the option of a 650hp engine, though that was not fitted). Weight increase is only to 22.6 tonnes, so it still has 24.6 hp/tonne compared to the Stingray I’s 25.2. The tank also gets second-gen thermal sights and would likely be equipped with M900 which is a much better round than DM33.

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There goes any hopes of it being a tech tree vehicle

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unfortunately so

Gaijin has this wired obsession in making M8 AGS like vehicle into premium/event /pack

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Hoping the M8 Thunderbolt 120mm gets added to the TT and not as a event

Gaijin on there way to finally add a US used stingrays model (after getting the Thailand on under a US flag) and they paywall it.

Kinda was looking forward to it too.

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War is over :)

Bushmaster slop goes in the tech tree anything else goes in premiums (except the m10 booker W m10 booker fr)

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I feel like this is similar to the f14d in that its a new vehicle with its own features and they could just add a tech tree and premium version with different camos but i have a feeling gaijin is also afraid to continue doing that because premiums have always been like this, sometimes reskinned tt vehicles and sometimes unique vehicles stuck behind a paywall (or that weird one with the M8 car being a premium in the US tt and a tt vehicle in the chinese tt)

more premium slop, yay.

It’s very disappointing to see that they’ve not expanded on the triple pack vehicles more to other nations

Only 4 nations have them, most of the packs (Russian ones aside) don’t pay wall anything, and at least with regards to the rank III packs*, they’re great deals for players as they’re effectively always 50% off

‘* unfortunately the tank IV pack for Russia wasn’t properly priced, and it’s actually a better deal to buy 3 tank Iv packs on sale than to buy the pack itself

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And just moment ago i saw this reported by zenturion as implemented to wt as premium

monkeys paw.

its a premium pack

I just noticed some similarities between the original Stingray prototypes and the first Stingray II

The radiator of the first Stingray II looks like the first Stingray prototype (post-redesign) rather than using design found on the Thai service Stingray tanks.

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The same vehicle also features a full LFP as seen on the Stingray prototypes, rather than the cutout for the track tensioning mechanisms found on the Thai tanks


However when comparing the second of the two Stingray II prototypes to the Stingray prototypes there is notable differences:

The mesh around the exhaust as well as the cutouts for the track tension mechanisms in the LFP reflect changes made to the tanks produced for Thailand, which were not present on the original prototypes.


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So from this I believe the first Stingray II tank was converted from one of the prototypes. Specifically I believe it to be the first prototype, due to the distinct way the radiator is placed. But the second could be one of two options:


Option A

Option A would be that the second Stingray II was also converted from a Stingray prototype, which would then have to be the second. This does somewhat line up with the second prototype being said to be built to production specifications.

However…

The only known (at least to me) picture of the second prototype, taken in 1987 around the time the first prototype was still being trialed in Malaysia, shows it still using the older LFP design.

This doesn't match the second Stingray II, which has the LFP visibly cut.

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However aside from the LFP, it also shows that it uses the squared off mirrors found on the later Thai tanks rather than the initial prototypes round mirrors. Because of this alongside the fact it’s said to be built to production specifications I can assume that anything not visible in this photo, such as the mesh around the exhaust and the radiator design, would match the final Stingray. Though there will still be a possibility of additional differences.

If the second Stingray II prototype is converted from this tank, that would require the LFP to be retroactively modified to the Thai Stingrays standard either before or as part of the Stingray II conversion.


Option B

This option would simply be that after converting one of the prototypes to the Stingray II standard and testing it, a newly built Stingray II would be made with the results of the tests taken into account and manufactured accordingly to an intended production standard to streamline any orders for the tank that might come in.
This is what was done for the original Stingray as well, so this option seems likely.

Image of the second Stingray II prototype


Sadly only Textron would know the real answer, and they wouldn’t even answer my emails when I asked about the original Stingray…

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