SPYDER - General Discussion

I’m just wondering when we are gonna get an AESA radar for the spyder. Can’t believe we are coming up on a year waiting for that to be implemented ,but Russia got the buk that performs about on par if not better than other Sam’s and they get an upgraded pantsir that completely wipes the sky of cas/munitions. Cause “russia suffers” from what the devs think. I’m quite fed up with these priorities/favoritism they are blatantly showing

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ijkztgHeOZHi

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/zOFFQYrgku0R

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cBK9FSXVIyNt

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RXQet8JAaujZ

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/j5hOgNKcY2KK

And the devs think “Russia suffers”

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ALL of them accepted for months and none fixed, who could have thought

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It really is a sad joke. Coming up on a year now nearly and these reports are pretty much thrown in the bin with merkava armor rework with how they aren’t implemented yet. Gotta love the double standards gaijin has

Cant really say much that hasn’t already been said. Its BS, I can deal with the Merkava armor, I can deal with the Namer having no reserve ammo, I can deal with not having Python 4 or I derby SR for my planes, or Popeye missiles Delilah, etc, but Isreal is known the world over for one thing, and that thing is air defense anytime Isreal is attacked their air defense is all over the news. Isreal should have thr single best munition interception rate in the game if this was even halfway realistic, nobody, not even the eastern bloc can make the claim that Israeli air defense is bad. (I understand some of these issues are more systemic than just Isreal, the IRIS-T, CLAWS, NASAMS, etc basically all western AAs were and have been continually denied proper ESA polling rates for their radars) But this is ridiculous, Gaijin adds the Pantsir, the Tor, the HQ17, the Buk, the CS/SA5 and the Pantsir SM-SV all of which got ESA polling rates, and in the case of the SM-SV it was “unrealistic” for the SPYDER to have true hemispheric radar coverage but thr SM-SV does somehow. The double standard is infuriating, the I-Derby ER is a wonderful addition, truly I’m happy they added it, but it should’ve come with the SPYDER when it was added, not nearly a year afterwards and still no fixes for the issues we actually needed addressed. I cant know if I speak for everyone but personally I wouldve happily taken thr SPYDER getting the above listed changes over the ER any day of the week.

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I agree, but I think i-derby er still is a base requirement for spyder, given what other spaas at its BR have.

Speaking of full hemisphere - its been complete bs even before sm-sv. Gaijin stated aesa pannel physically cant cover 70’ to the sides (which would mean 90’ upwards with spyder aesa pannels being angled to 20’). But at the same time all of aesa radars on a jets already had 70’ to the sides. Kfir C10 and rafale already been here with its 140’ sectors and fixed aesa pannels.

Even Italy got absolute best vehicles out of nowhere, while being quite questionable military power irl.

Im not claiming or stating anything here but last Israeli independence day was left without decal or simple mentioning by gaijin. Is there any problems with this nation?

Ive claimed before gaijin may be anti Isreal, I wont elaborate because the last time I made such accusations I was muted for a month but the evidence does seem to point in that direction. At the very least, Isreal is the least played nation in the game, roughly 6% of the playerbase give or take, big changes for Isreal dont offer payouts for Gaijin like Russia would for example

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i have every single vehicle (helicopters,tanks,aircrafts) in israel, the tech tree is extremely small, but at the same time is fked up.

gaijin knows if they’ll fix namer’s armor a 2s38 and a BMPT cant do anything to it frontally (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE RUSSIA HAS TO PENETRATE ANYTHING!!!111!!!)

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Ik I’ve got almost all of them too, missing a few of the magachs and the newer merkava 1 and the Netz and Barak C for planes, I dont really fly helis like that so I never bothered.

Oh and the Eitan, I haven’t finished grinding that yet

i havent played the saraph and ah-60 in a while, the saraph STILL doesnt have spike nlos, and the SPIKE ER is extremely slow + is messed up just like every single spike in the game

I wouldnt bother, personally, your missiles will just be intercepted, and you will get slapped out of the sky like a gnat

oh right, the pantsir sm-sv…

because of course, russia REALLY needed that, because bvvd said buk is the worst AA on its BR

Just use fixed wing CAS at the very least the SPICE bombs are a welcome change, quite strong and very reliable

i actually dont understand why is it so hard to add the Barak LRAD, it would be so much better and effective (i mean, obviously if wont be MESSED UP like every modern israeli vehicle in the game)

Testing against my friend who owns the Buk, SM-SV and Pantsir he has trouble stopping me

I would also take the SPYDER MR (I think that’s the one with the Python 5 MR)

yeah the one with I-Derby MR and Python 5 MR, however i think its too early for it to be in the game and they should add the Barak LRAD For now, because python 5 MR has a range of over 30 KM, and I-Derby MR has a range of 80 KM