SPYDER - General Discussion

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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Welcome to fire and forget ordnance, the moment missile/bomb leaves rail, you can’t do anything about its guidance.

ARH missile seeker runs with Pulse Doppler filter by default. Unless heli moves with considerable speed TOWARDS or AWAY from the missile seeker, it will be filtered out as ground clutter.

When heli flies high enough and IOG of the missile indicates very slow target speed, seeker will try to switch into Pulse mode. And if heli is high enough to distinguish itself from ground clutter, seeker will pick up and track heli. However, in this mode seeker is chaff vulnerable and heli can’t fly fast enough to trigger angle gating even if it tried to.

So yes, you can hit somewhat high flying helis… that forgot to equip chaff and/or are flying fast enough doing their best to headbutt missile that makes RWR scream.

Since Merkavas got IRST, you will have better chances of killing heli with IRST lock + time fuse HE than with any SPAA. Especially as IRST lock is/should be passive and don’t ring any alarms for the heli pilot except muzzle flash pointed at them.

Datalink is enabled by default for missiles that have it, all you can do is to pray. Pray target won’t notch your radar on purpose or by accident, nor gaijin servers decide to break datalink for any reason or no reason. Briefly losing TWS track also closes datalink channel. Then all datalink does is updates IOG, which in turn is ignored the moment seeker picks up anything. Which is usually “always” as ARH seekers go active around 16-20km from the target.

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2791

guess who it is bro idk i just want my spyder fix

2792

everyone just gave up on spyder, however im gonna keep going🙏🙏🙏

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2793

Let’s hope this is the update that starts fixing things. They did say back in December they were looking into the Spyder… if that means anything

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2794

lets wait until monday when dev server opens, i mean atleast we also got Eitan IFV…

2795

We finally get to use iron fist aps.

2796

peak

2797

I worry about that one, as they said it will only have two missiles.

2798

oh nvm, they meant that it will have 2 missiles each, they meant 4 in total just like every SPIKE ATGM carrier

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2799

That is good to hear

2800

We are so cooked ngl from what ive heard (not saying its true or false) gaijin said the buk is the worst anti air in the game…

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SPYDER crying in the corner

2802

Its true (i mean gaijin did said it)

2803

what?

2804

He is saying that it is true that Gaijin (Bvv_d) said Buk is the worst of the new SPAAs.

2805

yeah he said its true before he edited it

2806

I mean, if I’m honest, it isn’t good, even with the random buffs they gave it, like being able to engage targets right in front of it, despite quite a few sources saying it has a min range of 2.5 or 3km? Or allowing its giant telephone pole missile to start turning right after launch, with dumb maneuverability compared to a Python 5. Any low-flying heli spanks that thing, and some jets can easily defeat it.

BUT TO SAY IT’S THE WORST AND WORSE THAN THE SPYDER IS INSANE

I imagine we will see Gaijin add the Arctic Pantsir with 18 missiles before we get a Spyder buff.

2807

I nearly detonate a bomb…

2808

I wish Gaijin would be transparent and release the metrics they use and how they determine whether a vehicle is underperforming.

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2809

Yeah i have both and the spyder is definitely not better than the buk in anyway and the pantsir s1 was definitely enough for russian