this just seems impossible without a ramjet
That’s the conclusion I’ve come to, and other users who’ve come across it and dug into it believe it’s just a repeated misconception.
tested it today, nothing changed like at all
Doesn’t have datalink
It’s most likely dual pulse instead of variable thrust since it’s usually quite inefficient
I was trying to find source about dual pulse, sadly I find source saying it doesn’t have dual pulse.
In Rafael python 5 vids, they mention “two-stage rocket motor”. Which basically means dual stage/thrust rather than dual pulse.
We’ve seen in mentioned in loose sourcing time and time again, which is why I said it’s “possible”. We have nothing concrete ofc, and given its age it’s unlikely realistically.
It has the exact same motor/propulsion as the Python 4, and there’s no way the Python 4 has that. Gonna need to see some sourcing (which surbaisse could prob counter with his own sources I reckon). It should be two stage like most other missiles, being booster/sustainer propelled, anything stating otherwise is wrong.
surbaisse is a monster when it comes to sources bro dont even challenge him
If Rafael has no issues listing datalink for Derby ER missiles as feature in their public brochure, but they don’t list it on Python 5 one, then odds are it is simply not present on the missile.
Very likely.
However, one thing of concern to me is the Python 5-MR. It’s used on SPYDER-MR/LR systems and has ~40km of range, it’s just a Python 5 with a booster on it. I don’t expect a ground launched missile without datalink to be able to obtain a lock after the time spent traveling ~25km. If it doesn’t have datalink that’s quite concerning for it and a bit sad lmao
It is most likely assumtpions since the missile is marketed as having LOAL
Tbh just bring it in a couple games and see how it goes
still wobbles
impossible, they dont add things and artificially nerf them, you know, to quote someone
I do, it’s my main AA missile on the SPYDER (I run 6 P5 for AA and 2 Derby for anti missile)

This much bug fixes and it still doesnt mention Spyder ANYWHERE lmao, i just find it funny at this point
Because it is not a bug, this has been deliberately designed, Israel must always have the worst air defence in the game, we do not know the reason, but this is a strict rule of Gaijin’s numerical planning.
LOAL can be realized by inertial guidance, “fly in that direction and you shall find out”. Which was present in game since day one.
Someone is bound to be “the worst” and you could say Elde thingy in meatball army was even worse than Spyder.
Sure they got NASAMS months later, but that one mostly brings 9X, AMRAAAMs suffer from usual ARH features.
It is 12.0 tho
Only after “decompression” effort where Ground was extended to 12.7. And last time I’ve checked, Sweden don’t have 12.0 lineup, unless you count single light tank and two SPAA as one.
Then looking at statshark vehicle stats, Spyder doesn’t look good… but so does this bussian rias incarnate Buk, while IRIS-T SLM dominates in kills/spawn and kills/death to absolutely no one surprise, with medium range IR missiles.
Yeah it’s pretty hilarious how much it’s ignored