SPYDER - General Discussion

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I will put money that its better then irl

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The holy Russian Trophy that would stop a nuke, it will definitely work perfectly fine.

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These days I’m getting my posts hidden…
Anyways, to make up for it, I’m posting a picture of the SPYDER-SR.

SPYDER-SR

SPYDER air defense missile system
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If Gaijin ever adds this (we can wait an eternity for this) it might fair better as the missiles won’t try to go to space, they’ll be facing the enemy plane.

As I said, Russian APS>Trophy APS (cuz why not).

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can someone sum up, how did they ruined the spyder? i don’t quite get it

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I heard that the radar was weakened and we were given poor missiles

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Everything
Radar ,range, missiles pull

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Well, its all subject to change but here is small comparasing of what we supposed to recieve vs what was shown on a dev:

  1. 360x90 aesa radar → 360x70 with terrible refresh rate and no multitarget TWS
  2. Python 5 with 70G pull and smokeless motor → 26G pull missile with a smoke trail
  3. i-Derby ER with 40km double pulse smokeless motor → i-Derby SR with 20km range (more like 10-15) smoke motor
  4. ability to use radar while in retracted position → only in extended position
  5. ability to track targets via optical lock and launch P5 without radar → no optical lock and launch functionality

Thats first what comes to mind.

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more like 6-7km

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ADATS ahh range

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stinger range

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stinger is better than this cuz it can anti tank(on most stinger platform anyways, aside from a few, but they are small)

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so we are cooked then

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We’re out of the oven and Into the frying pan

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have we ever gotten something accurate in game? like, no matter how I think about it
sholef is not a sholef, namer has transparent armor, giraf missing the ability to raise and lower tow, chaparral doesn’t have a smokeless motor, the tech tree starts at rank iv even tho it also could start at 1, they keep adding copy paste stuff

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notice how there isnt alot of RU bug reports but every other nations theres no many?

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Someone posted a graph of performance specs of the new AA’s in RR thread earlier.

Derby :
5km - Mach 1.66
7.5km - Mach 1.15
10km - Mach 0.88
20km - Mach 0.51

Python :
5km - Mach 1.53
7.5km - Mach 0.88
10km - Mach 0.67
15km - Mach 0.44

For comparison, Pantsir is Mach 2.35 at 10km, and Mach 1.03 at 20km.

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Oh, and although it’s not relevant to Spyder, I’ll post it here since it’s where most of ISR playerbase is lol,

In regards to the trophy bug, I asked Smin earlier in RR about it, he said it was being investigated but no ETA on a fix.

Nice to know it’s at least being looked into now I guess.

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Yeah, just read it. We’ll see if it does get fixed/changed.

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TTK values are even more wild.
7.5km for python-5 is 18 sec + you also create a massive smoke trail during the launch.
at 7.5 km simple 90’ turn is enough to avoid the missile since it won’t have enough energy/speed, and even at 5km it depends on how well missile retains the energy… could be 50-50
Especially, since course correction/energy retention is implemented pretty bad for other systems too. classic crazy wobbling that drains all the energy:

anyway, there were no expectations :)

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