Would advise you to go check the SLM dev server thread then, to have some proper laugh.
Currently neither SLM nor Spyder deliver the performance they should. Simple as.
Did the devs even play this pile? The thing is useless, no range on the derby and the p5 is only pulling half of its capable g force and is slower than mim72 when Rafael claims it’s twice as fast irl. I bet if it was a new Russian system it would be completely game breaking based off of any wiki search the devs could find, we post actual stats from the manufacturer and its denied 😡
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I’m not sitting here saying everything for SLM is rosy, it’s clearly underperforming.
But equally, Spyder is so atrocious right now, that even achieving parity with the state SLM is in would be a big improvement.
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am just hoping the missiles currently on the dev server are all be replaced with better one when the update is here
This one’s actually heartbreaking.
Like, Merkava’s and Namer being added with paper armour? Bad but I can cope through it.
Trophy straight up not working for more than half a year now? Bad but I can cope with it.
But this… years of pure frustration at the hands of CAS with nothing to counter it. AIO was the hope and dream for that to finally end… and this… this is the state it’s being added in.
Genuinely despondent man.
We’re cooked.
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the funny thing is that it is still being compared to the Pantsir since it will be at BR 12.0 too: It is actually worse than the Tunguska (which sits at 10.7). Due to the huge deadzone and utterly slow missiles, it will only serve to shoot down combat drones, nothing else.
Even a Su25 is an enemy it can’t possibly beat (and I am not talking about the upgraded Su25 but refer to the base model). This has extensively been tested on the dev server.
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Cooked indeed. I guess we have to wait for the update to drop, lets see what’s up.
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This are the stats according to rafael
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I have no idea what you just wrote. I am pointing out that I had no idea there are so many different AA system being built across the world.
I cannot believe you expect us to fight a 20km+ fictional missile with 10km bugged missiles.
You don’t intend even to let the thing fight targets at a distance with this comment.
You stripped Israel of having a competitive SPAA. This is depressingly infuriating.
The Pantsir was already insufficient, and most of these new SPAA should have been around a year ago.
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This is a really depressing implementation of one of the best anti-air systems out there. Your constant handicapping of Israeli hardware is getting really old.
Please fix it.
Please fix the Merkava armor.
Please give Israeli aircraft SPICE armaments.
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Im just saying they arent rly adding this new spaas to the game cuz they are completle diffrent from what they are irl
Gaijin makes them hella bad
Merkava mk4m and namer triskhion aps not working for 3 months i did a report in site but busy gaijin admins did not respond
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theres a 2 yrs bug report on it already (i think?)
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Everything is over. The missile performance of all SPAA in the new version is even worse than that of the HQ17. The next version will still be dominated by Russia’s Pantsir and KH-38 (not to mention that the KH-38 has been strengthened), as well as the new infrared jammer of the Mi-28NM. The Russian Federation is truly great.
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The current state of this system shows the true bias, it’s funny you refuse to nerf Russian equipment even when they are proven to not work in battle and you strait up nerf other nations of their actual capabilities. Pound for pound Israel would steamroll Russia irl lol
So lemme get this straight. The radar doesn’t work like it’s supposed to, the Derby doesn’t get its extra booster, we don’t even get the Python 5 and are instead given the Python 4 right down to the model a missile this system has never used which itself was nerfed heavily boh missiles have a 2km deadzone where they simply wont hit a target. While the Pantsir gets 2 buffs and the KH38MT gets a massive buff. Remind me again what the whole point of the update was if they were just gonna make Russian CAS even more powerful and gimp most of the NATO SPAAs they added. The only one in a somewhat comfortable state is the SLM. SLAMRAAM is gimped pretty hard and this is borderline useless. Cool and I guess this means that I won’t be seeing any sort of similar munitons to the FakeH38MT deluxe right? No popeye or SPICE? No Python 4 for my planes? No other Israeli PGMs just get hand me down American stuff that hardly works. Thanks for nothing Gaijin.
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Yea i think u got it right
Just another israeli vehicle that gaijin refuses to make right
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And thats only since the second dev server. First dev server version was essentialy glorified stinger.
Lets just hope Spyder gets fixed later this devblog or on live release, otherwise israel is still without top tier AA
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Not much that can be fixed about it besides giving it Derby-ER, but according to Smin it would be stuck with Derby-SR as far as they knew.
So the Spyder is likely doa when it comes to being 12.0.