Thats the thing they dont
All of them are hella nerfed and unrealistic so it wont be stronger then pantsir or smt otherwise i dont have good explanation for this bs
On Dev Server :
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Python 5 has a 2km deadzone, an 8km effective range, and half its actual flight performance.
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Derby has a 4km deadzone, an 8km effective range, and still 0 explanation why it’s not allowed the 40km I-Derby ER, despite SLM getting the even more dangerous 40km IRIS-T in the same update.
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Extremely weak ability to intercept anything
So basically, it’s completely DoA, outranged by all CAS at top tier, and will eat every 38MT, Hammer and Mav thrown at it because it’s the size of an apartment complex. Awesome.
Glad we waited years of misery with Machbet and Chaparral for this. Continuing the long standing tradition of unnecessary holding back and artificially nerfing everything in the ISR tree.
Just paint a Pantsir in white and blue UN paint, and stick it in everyone’s lineup like a strike drone at this point. I’m tired, boss.
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I have a few issues with the system at the moment.
For starters, please give it the I-Derby ER missiles, giving the system much more range and allowing it to be competitive against standoff munitions. Even if it’s as a modification, it would still really improve the SPAA situation here.
Second, please fix the radar(s), it’s supposed to have 4 separate radars constantly scanning in all directions horizontally and also vertically. As of now it behave as a single radar with incorrect vertical limits. It should be the strongest radar system on a SPAA ingame.
Finally, please continue working on the Python 5. It isn’t preforming quite well off the rail (it doesn’t turn nearly tight enough, nor fast enough, it has simple performance to a thrust vectoring missile mind you) and has an acknowledged wobbling issue that has yet to be fixed.
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Yea u see if they do that russia wont be op with its kh38 and its unique pantsir
Vigilant Arthropod that got the dead treatment because Gaijin wont let anything have better range than Pantsiz
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Dont forget fixing its irccm too
i love this fact too
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they clearly dont know what are. they talking about for sure
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yes i laugh a bit when i saw it
Ahahahaha if only. It currently has same issues as Spyder when it comes to range.
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It’s probably just me, but does this update consist entirely of stupid spaa’s and boats?
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The issue is, with these AA’s, snail is basically looking at their range and saying ‘only <50% of it is effective range’.
So for SLM, from a start of 40km it’s still left with a respectable 18-20km where it’s potent.
Whereas for Spyder, it’s left with an utterly depressing 8km. (Which is made even worse by the fact half of even that pitiful number is deadzone)
If they add I-Derby ER, I’m not expecting it to have the full 40km range be potent, but it would be an infinite improvement to atleast achieve some degree of Parity to SLM and Pantsir in that 18km area.
It’s beyond my comprehension how they can, in one breath, openly admit in Q&A that the 10km-12km AA’s of old are obsolete at top tier, and then somehow parade off this artificially nerfed, 8km effective Spyder as an answer to that problem.
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Would advise you to go check the SLM dev server thread then, to have some proper laugh.
Currently neither SLM nor Spyder deliver the performance they should. Simple as.
Did the devs even play this pile? The thing is useless, no range on the derby and the p5 is only pulling half of its capable g force and is slower than mim72 when Rafael claims it’s twice as fast irl. I bet if it was a new Russian system it would be completely game breaking based off of any wiki search the devs could find, we post actual stats from the manufacturer and its denied 😡
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I’m not sitting here saying everything for SLM is rosy, it’s clearly underperforming.
But equally, Spyder is so atrocious right now, that even achieving parity with the state SLM is in would be a big improvement.
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am just hoping the missiles currently on the dev server are all be replaced with better one when the update is here
This one’s actually heartbreaking.
Like, Merkava’s and Namer being added with paper armour? Bad but I can cope through it.
Trophy straight up not working for more than half a year now? Bad but I can cope with it.
But this… years of pure frustration at the hands of CAS with nothing to counter it. AIO was the hope and dream for that to finally end… and this… this is the state it’s being added in.
Genuinely despondent man.
We’re cooked.
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the funny thing is that it is still being compared to the Pantsir since it will be at BR 12.0 too: It is actually worse than the Tunguska (which sits at 10.7). Due to the huge deadzone and utterly slow missiles, it will only serve to shoot down combat drones, nothing else.
Even a Su25 is an enemy it can’t possibly beat (and I am not talking about the upgraded Su25 but refer to the base model). This has extensively been tested on the dev server.
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Cooked indeed. I guess we have to wait for the update to drop, lets see what’s up.
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This are the stats according to rafael
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