Remove Spyder,add Iron Dome
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Can people voting no justify their choice, all the Derby-ER brings to the table is a chance of competing with these new SAMs being added.
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Great and what does that mean for Elde,Tan Sam Kai and to an extent IRIS-T? Nothing.
The Derby-ER has quite literally the same range specification as the IRIS-T SLM. The AIO should have had the ER since release.
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Tan Sam Kai is already DOA (a singaporean MICA-VL should be added, or the Type 03 Kai), the Elde might be able to get better IRIS-T variants (and more ammo boxes) and the chinese SAM is already pretty good so for the other 3 nations with mediocre choices, here are my suggestions for them.
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CS/SA5 is really bad until you get the better missile and even then its pretty bad with 20G overload and being IR.
For it’s role as a supplementary CWIS to complement the HQ-17, it’s very good
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Its actually upgrade compared to HQ-17 as it have bigger range, tho suffers from same issues as HQ and that is the missile can be outpulled.
because i want to
guys can we go back the the SPYDER topic this is not for other SPAAs this is for the SPYDER soo… talk about the SPYDER problems that are various to solve.
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I had strike UCAVs evade the SPYDER’s Derby by just wiggling left/right continuously. It’s completely pathetic that Gaijin
- Didn’t give it the I-Derby ER
- Nerfed the I-Derby SR so much that even a strike UCAV can outmaneuver it
But if they didn’t listen to the 2000+ posts in the other thread (SPYDER - General Discussion) why should they listen here?
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Bump
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Well, gaijin could argue that ARH missile with this range on a spaa would be too strong before, but now its kinda obvious Spyder should recieve it.
Like cmon man, those are stats of a players, who were playing on leopards 2a7 worse then average ariete/merkava guy
And also Spyder needs an actual tws mode of aesa. How comes Buk gets perfectly fine esa track radar from the start and we still having regular spinning radar of a flarakrad with single target tws mode added?
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Spyder is just useless and I don’t think even the ER derby will fix it
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All it needs is AESA search pattern and I-Derby ER to be somewhat viable. After that, Python 5 fixes, radar fixes (as in 4 beams not 1), toplite python slaving, and derby drag fixes should bring it up to par with other systems
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Its hate thats all there is to it.
Elde can’t get better missiles and would need to be given unfair treatment to bring its ammo count up. I say unfair because people will cry even if its added for balance to give it more than 8 missiles total with ammo box, more ammo still doesn’t fix the Elde being the shortest range 12.0 SPAA at 9km nor does it fix uts mobility problem or gimped radar, it should just be removed from the game.
The Spyder also cannot restock more than 8 times, i think it would be fine if these two vehicles had an extra ammo box charge.
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Extra ammo box isn’t gonna fix the Elde, thats 12 missiles, 12 of the shortest range missile at top 12.0, what needs to happen is the Spyder needs to be actually made effective and the radar needs to not over pressure the whole vehicle.
Elde should just get removed there is nothing worth saving with that dumpster fire
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its mostly fixed on dev rn
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