There seams to be more to it on Paper the Griffon Spitfires do have More Power than for example the vb/vb trop 1700 hp vs 2000 hp at ~3500 respective ~4300 Meters
But those feel like they still have more power and acceleration below 4500meters
So if we use a not fully performing Spitfire Mk1 it’s slower than an A6M5 running at full chat. The A6M5 being a lighter aircraft I’d wager too.
Somebody beat this man with a stick! The Spitfire is arguably the most beautiful aircraft ever made.
It even wears chrome better than the Mustang does.
A few years back some Sim members tested it and it supposedly changes with your convergence but I don’t know if that’s the case or not still. It just aggravates me as it does nothing more than get in the way.
I agree…
Because as we all know the Spitfire is better.
The Merlin engine offered better performance than the Griffon did at low alt without boost and 150 octane improvements which is why the Spitfire mk.8 never materialised with the slated Griffon engine. Merlin spits are also lighter.
Not sure if they truly do provide better performance ingame though.
I have a report in for the Mk.14e that has been denied due to them not seeing a need for it. I disagree with that vehemently because 5.7 spits get stomped by P-51H’s and 6.7 ones are so high they always face jets, a buffed Mk.14e would be the perfect compromise.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/c18QFryvjTGn
Yeah, I found that, however that states 626 km/h on the deck, not 680 km/h. Even at 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) the top speed was 408 mph (657 km/h). 680 km/h was a clear exaggeration and would make it faster than any other piston prop in the game at sea level.
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If you check the full graph which i can’t get right now as im responding on my phone i believe it tops out at ~680, this only shows to the equivalent of like 1.5km which admittedly is higher than the deck, ill make sure to explicitly say low altitude in the future.
Also the fastest piston prop on the deck afaik is the spiteful which tops out higher than this on the deck and also uses a Griffon engine with 150 Octane and 25 PSI.
The graph you’re talking about also contradicts the previous performance figures as it overall just states higher values than what you’ve already shown. It states ~396 MPH (637 km/h) at sea level when, as already pointed out, the other source says 626 km/h.
Edit: there also seems to be more sources that state the lower values than the higher values stated by the graph.
I’m equalizing on engine power, at 100 octane the Spitfire makes what, a little over 1300hp? Without it it’s in the 1150-ish region, same as the A6M5. They have engines of similar displacement.
EWWW WHAT IS THAT THING
Sadly the wiki only says 3t for all of them given the performance the Merlin’s spit seams to be 2.51t and the Griffon 3.4999999999999t
The weights stated on the wiki for prop planes can be completely ignored to be honest.
This cannot be used for bug reporting cases.
However it appears the Griffon correctly has more power and an overall higher power/weight (though its very interesting that the two get relatively close a 4.3 almost matching a 5.7 in P/W is surprising.
Its a little big closer with the LF MK.IX but that aircraft just beats the Griffon in anything but raw speed, which isn’t quite historical as the Griffon got its boost and 150 octane rating at the same time as the LF Mk.IX did. Which is why I think it would be good to buff the MK.14e and put it at 6.0-6.3.
Or add the MK.23 which would be just as good but with 4 hispano’s too and a tighter turning circle.
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Sadly can’t Post pictures right now but the vc is weaker than those but still feels like an UFO compared to the brick that is the Griffon Spit
Also the vc has just a single Stage supercharger