I’ll try find my old document, but as far as I remember, actually 830m/s is ‘conservative’ interpretation of test result. Test was also done in 870 m/s for some shot, and concluded barrel can bear it and recalculate estimation of shell performance on 870 m/s, which eventually didn’t done by wartime.
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What ? So you don’t even expect it won’t degrade further ? That it will end up in completley inoperable condition ? By your description degradation tempo it shouldn’t make 81 shot and used further
It’s really been funny people crying at ‘Soyuz should be differentiate as paper ship compared to other battleships and should not be in game’
Seriously, if Gaijin cannot put Soyuz, will Gaijin ever put battleship in this game and make only Iowa and Yamato people smile? I don’t think so, especially as USSR players were one of biggest playerbase on naval before New Power. They would just rather not make battleship and head to missile cruiser, where nations except USA and USSR suffer.
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Imo there is a solution for “no paper!”, but… literally nobody gonna like it:
- skip of Soviet battleships straight for missile cruisers
/mostly joking, but… there is quite literally no other options. Just not giving is not an option at all
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I like that its in, I just do think they should give it the face hardened armour and consider adding other mostly paper alternatives (they should do that for France and Italy anyway).
Russia seemingly gets a constant stream of laid down ships that weren’t finished, whilst also getting every ship they got via war prizes due to Stalin’s tantrums, even at the expense of for example the Italian Tech tree, and at the time the British tech tree too.
I know for Royal Navy, the addition of the laid down Neptune or Minotaur class would do wonders for the cruiser tree.
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Oh boy, looking at the stream seems like we have a Soviet made Yamato at our hands. Who could have guessed that a fake Soviet ship would be better than Iowa in this game :))
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Right? @Stona_WT is naval RB naval going to be fixed? So I’m not playing a street fighting game in naval? I hate to spam A, somehow click on the ship 10 miles behind my target, and have to re-range all over again.
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USSR could’ve gotten missile crusiers instead, which would be incredibly OP, or, a partially complete BB. Which would you rather see?
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Didn’t know both were laid down, that’s great to hear
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Yeah they can’t beat the bias allegations with this one.
Basically, these are the so-called “supercharged” fake shells that the Soyuz were purportedly using. The SAP alone basically outclass most AP shells due to pen + stupidly high filler, and the AP shell has more pen at 10 km than most shell has at point blank range.
For comparison, here’s Yamato’s available shells. Mind you that Soyuz were to have twice the rate of fire of Yamato.
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A partially completed BB with at least somewhat realistic stats. What I just saw in dev stream is pure Stalin’s wet fantasy. That thing has more explosive filler in 406mm AP shells than Yamato has in her 460mm AP shells. Soyuz’s shells are also about 100kg lighter than Iowas 406mm shells, yet have about 6kg more explosive filler and have the same penetration.
Soyuz’s armor is also on par with Yamato’s armor despite Soviets having no technology and industry to produce half the armor we saw in game.
What is this thing running on, Soviet magic?
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Almost 40kg of TNT equivalent in an AP shell is actually crazy. And I won’t even get into its armor. Some people are hyped for “the big 3” finally coming, Iowa, Bismarck, Yamato, lots of people kinda scared of the Yamato but they don’t realize this Soviet fantasy will actually run the show lmao.
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I am actually in awe, I expected many things from Gaijin, I expected them to make Soyuz an Iowa equivalent or something, but holy shit. She will actually give Yamato run for her money if she enters the game in this configuration. This is wrong on all kinds of levels.
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i can also guarantee you these shells will be magically more accurate than the competition as was the deal with the kron.
yeah nah the soyuz is looking like it will actually destroy the show, 420-375mm belt, fast guns with almost the same performance as yamato all the while vanguard doesnt have its supercharge shells, no 6crh shells and possibly the same accuracy issue (if oxy’s words of “its a very accurate gun” to be believed, then id love to see what they were referring to.)
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It’s because Yamato’s shell ingame has about 10 kg less filler than irl. Navweaps recently made horrible mistake by typo, and Gaijin recklessly use it as stats in game.
So 460 mm Type 91 APC should have 10 kg more filler than now, and lower pen(about 40 mm at 10 km should be reduced)
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thats quite funny considering they dont consider navweapons a valid source
then that means that soyuz’ ap shell will actually have better performance at 10km than yamato LOL
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Ahahahah paper soviet ship, that never builded by soviet have GIGA shell better than iowa(shell 1945 year) and yamato. And more explosion. And SAP have GIGA pen for SAP and more exp than HE.
Of course Gaijin, of course!!
Of course, I’m totally sure that Soviet engineers — with zero experience and even ordering destroyers from Italy — would’ve suddenly built a mega battleship just like that.
That gun did actually fire, but it wore out very quickly and had low accuracy. It’s extremely overperforming
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Not only Soyuz but Roma and Iowa also will.
Yamato’s shell is light shell for 18 inch, and have too many explosive filler, which are definitely a bad factor when calculating penetration.
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We must demand nerf this fantasy ship. Nonsens. Stalin paper will kill random.
I want buy Gneu for Bismarck, but stop this deal after see Bismarck nerfed pen and this paper monster.
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Navweaps recently made horrible mistake by typo, and Gaijin recklessly use it as stats in game.
Lol. Lmao even. This is the same company that didn’t approve of bug reports using actual military documents. The hypocrisy.
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