Lol this explosion type was developed in 1940-1942 years.
How it can be in shell 1928 years??
And this question for Kron and more.
only 14 dec 1941 started testing a-xi-2
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So the shell is from 1928?
If that’s true then yeah it shouldn’t be using A-IX-2 explosive type if there’s no documentation.
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Yeah, and that’s a SAP round with over 600mm of pen at 1000m. Crazy stats on everything.
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The test gun was used during siege of leningrad and new shells were manufactured during the war from what i read. So there would be acces A-IX-12 to put into the shells
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This ship is just ridiculous. Adding ships that were never completed is the bar, I get that, but to make them the best ships in the game for their category? That’s just pernicious. The Kronstadt is already bad enough, but the Soyuz is just a blatant insult to naval players.
I was really looking forward to the update, but if the Soyuz is this good and the Roma is this bad (no concrete foam, unbearable RoF for the main guns) there really is no reason to do the naval side for me. I understand Gaijin’s desire for realism, but to hold ships that were built to the letter of the law, but then let ships that were never done be impossibly good is just a mockery of that.
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Crap like this is what killed world of warships…
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Insult to the history as well far as i can see to make it worse add this fake sht before British battleship one of navy superpower lol
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Almost equal pen to Iowa, more explosive mass then Yamato, arguably better armor too since it can angle unlike Yamato and probably the smallest shell room and magazines on a top BB we have seen…
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I hope this is dev only. I can count, and it’s not 300 shells.
Brother what? 😂
First ship I will grind and I’m gonna go on a damn crusade and only hunt fucking Scharnhorsts!
Making shit up about Russian vehicles, they always get a positive benefit without solid evidence, other vehicles will get a total nerf over rumors
Soyuz modeling of her ammunition rooms doesnt make sense. So much space between them and the turrets, with seemingly no way for shells to be prepared in a speedy fasion.
It looks more designed for War Thunders sense of damage modeling than anything a IRL ship would have.
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You don’t play naval.
It’s cause they are Krons shell rooms/magazine and probably the same for the ammo elevators except the ammo elevators have been scaled up.
I’d give it a couple more dev updates before starting any serious complaining.
And before anyone else starts this wouldn’t be the first time something was put on dev essentially at the mid production point.
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I’ve been boycotting it since they made arcade mode into a brainless mobile game. I was looking forward to these ships since naval was introduced. Not anymore. They can screw it up as much as they want.
Explosive filler weight is 25.7 kg. Just A-IX-2 is powerful than TNT so TNT equivalent shown in big character is stated as 39kg
Shell’s name is Model 1928 because it was year when soviet shell designers first ‘redesign’ the Imperial 16’’ shell design of 1914, because at that time soviet navy were considering converting Izmail class to 16’’ gun battlecruiser. The actual shell design for Soyuz was started in 1937, though it keep number of 1928, and that time, A-IX-2 was in consideration.
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They added the penetrating power stolen from IOWA to Sovetsky Soyuuz.
Complaining and venting won’t help the situation. With the current implementation, it’s pretty clear that the Sovetsky Soyuz will outperform any other ship by a wide margin, but there are always some soft balancing factors that can be discussed, like armor quality, RoF, etc. Additionally if you can find a reliable source to prove that the armour scheme (which seems pretty unrealistic and suspicious to me) is wrong somewhere, you’re welcome to file a bug report. However, it’s a shame that I haven’t seen many useful bug reports submitted while you guys are complaining here.
Find sources and bug report it!
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The armor acheme is unrealistic because its a soviet dream boat and not a properly functional design, never mind one the soviets could even build in the first place.
Trying to find sources to nerf a ship when the sources are already all just the lies of naval designers made to placate the fantasies of megalomaniacal sociopathic dictators to hopefully avoid the gallows juat isnt an option.
As for armor quality that was modelled at some point in WT history (way back in the day, german tanks had a negative modifier applied to their RHA to “represent poor late war steel quality due to sabotages”, but hasnt been a thing since (technically).
Realistically, theres nothing the community at large can do but operate on a tacit truce in every match until both teams have managed to sink all of eachothers Soyuz ships. The only way to properly deal with the mess that is going to be Soyuz is just going to be to make it miserable for anyone to try to play the stupid thing, because gaijin clearly cant be trusted to not put a soviet fanboys wetdream into the game for them to live our their god complex fantasies at the expense of everyone else.
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