Some doubts that arose with the arrival of the aim 120C-5

apparently only later tranches carried them (tranche 2)
Tranche 3 for the Meteor (if Gaijin can even model that well)

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Ok this addition is litterly just a pendering toward german main I feel like. First last patch most people realized that f-18c late and especially the sweadish one CAN NOT compete at 14.0, they asked gaijin to lower the f18c late to 13.7 and give the sweadish one hmd but gaijin just said it is fine. Now that this update drops, germany now get the eurofighter which is the second best jet in the game and the new f-18c with aim120c-5. However sweaden have to cope with a f18 with no hmd and usa (well player kinda suck a bit) f-18 just get farmed by the rafale or eurofighter since it just perform worst then other two. And for people who cry about how typhoon didn’t receive the aim120c-5, personally I do agree giving them that would be great since it does have it irl but never the aim120b. But for the sake of game balance, it shouldn’t since it would just power creep everything else into oblivion. And before anyone accuse me of being a us main, please go look in statshark on israeli f-15I winrate, there is no way that israeli players are also just bad at the game right? Or like does people who play usa and israeli tectree are just automatically bad at the game?

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in fact the f15E and I need a specific buff for the plane, but I still think that the addition of the aim120C is a huge balancing error, the problem is in the platform not in the missiles.
If only one plane were to receive the AIM120C, let it be the F18C.

both the F15I/E and Baz meshupar’s victory rate are low, including the improved F15C, Baz’s is the lowest of the F15C (and even so the gaijin will kill the plane again)

If fixed (very possible they forget), better zoom and 3rd gen thermals.

Comes at the cost of an AMRAAM however.

But isnt that nature that US air is dominant?
So as it is irl
Look at the case of RuS invade Ukraine
A lot of rus stuff isnt that great at all

That’s a terrible argument and justification for blatantly buffing the US air tree nearly all the time.

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from what i experienced the aim120c-5 are extremly good and without chaff/ multipathing not realy notchable with a stock f/a18 mlu 2

Any missile is good without chaff and multipath

Still a fact, and C5 is already gimped to the ground so its not a buff anymore.

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doesn’t it have a similar seeker as the 120A/B in the files?

Unless they were changed it again in todays dev update.

They made the seeker fov smaller I think, closer to MICA now

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It was like that, but yesterday or the day before that they changed it back to be identical to the 120A/B. I don’t think they changed it back yet.

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That sucks

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it is still 120a seeker

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b-but the extra range! US broken and getting buffs all the time! US mains are bad and are killing the game!!1!!!1!!one!!!

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It’s funny because people don’t realize just how nerfed the US tree is, or they use gaijin logic as gospel and hide behind their lack of accepted information.

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Most of the US stuff we have in the game is stuck in the 80s and 90s. Plus the existing stuff we have in the game is also gimped like aim9m, aim120 and AGM65 which many bug reports were passed over year too two years ago and still no fix. Just look at the US heli tree at top tier it’s absolutely useless gaijin is just letting it rot at this point because they refuse to add any f&f missiles which is a necessity at top tier which also applies to the other countries that have the Apaches. and for top tier the ground tree has been neglected for almost two years now with gaijin adding more premiums and copy paste Abrams that offer no improvements and refusing to implement any of the Abram bug reports. Sepv3 should have been added a year ago at this point. It’s only now that there adding something worth grinding the SLAMRAAM.

i would really like a more maneouvrable aim120c5, amraams after the maneovrability nerfs were bit dissapointing but workable. I wouldnt mind range buffs for it to be realistic as long as other arh missiles like aam4 r77/r77-1 and pl12 are fixed

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You know we’ve been in the same forums for a while. It makes putting money into this game kind of a lost cause, why would someone pay any more into a game that doesn’t reflect simple changes, accurate changes, or accurate munitions? People always reject newer F and F hellfire saying they would be OP, as if we already don’t have PARS, and vikhirs, rejected newer air munitions, because it would “make the US OP”, still people whine about the f15E getting its accurate 229 engines, etc. The vehicles that are in game, don’t have their realistic features on purpose, like you said 80s and 90s tech, while in this very update a tank with APS (T72) added, and not an existing tank in the game (SEPv2) that was added a few years ago. More planes with BOL pods and not the original aircraft that fielded them too. And the explanations as to why these decisions were made get more and more ridiculous as time goes on. People will inevitably complain about the SEPv3 when it comes out, but hey it’s been the crutch that Gaijin has leaned on for far too long, and with that tank, the armor problems cannot be ignored. As a customer to a business, it’s disappointing.

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