Some doubts that arose with the arrival of the aim 120C-5

If it doesn’t fly again then it is downed. It may not be a loss, but it still is one less plane flying.

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I said probably.

The F-15C pilot said he was doing a steep defensive maneuver and then the Iraqis lost radar contact which is why they thought it was shot down.

There are also no serials known of so I cant check if it flew after

The missile was already in the game files, same as the R-77-1.

Also:

lol, lmao even, as if the minor nations you grinded doesn’t have a form of the so broken AIM-120 when the only countries in the entire game that doesn’t have them are the USSR and China.

Keep the covert nation-based copium high.

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they had but they all were on worse airframes for the 120 meta than the US

Germany had it on the worst rank 8 Airframe
Isreal had it on a F-15 without any DL channels and on their F-16 they had the Derby
France didnt had anything with the AIM-120
Britain, Sweden and Italy all had it on the Gripen which has bad acceleration and low top speed

the only nation, besides the US, that didnt had it on a subpar airframe for the spamraam meta was Japan

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what about japan which had it on a better f15C?

so 2 out of 10 nations had the competetive combo for the meta at the time, great

france had an f16 with amraam and a better flight model than the f16c

not when seek and destroy released

the sub tree was added in firebirds iirc

they have added new missiles with basically no stat difference, so adding 1 that’s less than 10% better is nothing new

no it was seek and destroy

then iam schizo

… but even then the F-16 was a worse plattform because it couldnt carry as many missiles and was slower than the F-15

Harder to notch too similar notch filter to the MICA

At some point I said they didn’t have it?
Did I say that aim120 was dominant for 8 months or that the US was dominant for 8 months?

your comment is kind of meaningless

yes it is a slightly worse platform but the Japanese f15 was really the meta not the US one

and then when they added f15e the f15i was slightly better due to the added countermeasures

then EFT and ralph came and were meta

during the entire time frame the US didnt have the best plane for any update for some of them they weren’t far behind but never were the best

Better FM, in exchange for a worse radar, worse engine and no HMD.
…and to have access to MAW you have to give up 2 missiles

i honestly think for most players if they get killed by a US plane then to them the US killed them regardless of if the plane is actually in the us tree

the HMD is the biggest downside

despite having a worse engine the thrust to weight ratio is functionally the same at normal speeds due to the increased weight of f16c

and in exchange you get MAW and iirc extra countermeasures

His point relied on the strength of the missile, not the airframes. We can discuss that as another cause, but that wasn’t his point.

F-16AM + non-historical HMS on that same patch??? Are we playing the same game?

Now they got the EF, along Brits and Its.

It got fixed, knowing Gaijin, that could be perfectly not fixed by today if it wasn’t for player’s pressure.

It still is a 4th gen platform that has decent instantaneous turn, decent speed and a functional radar, all that you need to ramp kills on ARB.

Now its time to say Japan bias too i guess? lol.

which is interesting because a lot of the time there is an export version that is slightly better than the US tree one

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because of domestic upgrades most of the time