Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

It could never carry r-77-1 anyways

no one knows about, all info i saw was report from cctv i guess where they filmed mkk and mk2 with pl12/pl8b saying that chinese weapons were integrated

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/DaVRgtrFwheb

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ykqPIJqRF66C

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Source? All I see is no ground modes, no mention of only 1 DL channel.

VEP also has one datalink channel before upgrade lol. Just check radar manufacturer website

But anyways here’s the source for base n001vep having 1 dl channel before upgrade. Its logical to think that n001ve has only one datalink channel before upgrade as well if it even ever got upgraded

Right ok

Lol, no

yeah just as much as the F-2 is just an upgrade of the F-16

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I mean yeah f-2 is a better f-16. I consider it best f-16

Su-30mkk can technically get irbis radar, as it’s Russian prototype was fitted with one


Proof 503 is su30mkk

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nice meme, but exactly the kind of treatment from gajin that we expect. Take least interesting or just silly variants instead of actually Chinese armed and competitive

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Wouldn’t mind seeing something like this as an event vehicle, would be cool

Well it’d be russian. And I doubt Russia needs a worse Su30SM. I would like to see some more unique vehicles and Su35 first.

If you actually look at Soviet and Russian radars in fighters it’s pretty much exactly as you say. I think they tried to make up for it late by making more use of ground radars

One is an aesa the other is a pesa, the difference isn’t small irl like it is ingame

Wdym no

Tbf even IRL, it is actually a smaller difference then people think.

So uh, fun fact, AESAs, atleast on aircraft, dont really generally actually use multi-beam forming. It has a bunch of issues with noise/range/accuracy. So its really only ever used on larger and powerful ground based arrays that have performance to overcome said issues.

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It’s not a small difference

It kinda is from an end user standpoint. Especially for older AESAs which dont even have the advanced digital beamforming algorithms modern ones use.

Ik structrually they’re very different, but what they can do is not nearly as different as you’d think. The only notable advantage AESAs have are in certain filtering algorithms. Although again even on early AESAs, these weren’t that much of a departure from what PESAs could do.

Stuff like SAR modes dont even exist in warthunder anyways, so their accuracy in them wouldnt matter anyways.