Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

I don’t believe China ever purchased the RVV-SD for the J-11A unfortunately. The Su-30 is the only plane with the R-77-1 currently too.

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RVV-SD was purchased by China for the Su-35

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BVVD said that he considers 77-1 a missile for 14.0 jets, so I think we should expect them only for the Chinese Su-35S

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Can anyone check the empty weight of the J-11B in the files?
Might have to report it if it is wrong

does the pl8b have irccm on the dev?

Not right now

This is a rather unfinished dev as they go and they will probably add it later, that being said me and gaijin will have issues if they do not give it at least the basic 0.75 FoV IRCCM. I would settle for an ahistoricalally nerfed version as opposed to none at all.

I would also have issues if they don’t model the flight performance accurately
What is the actual thrust of the WS-10A (not on the statcard)? What is the empty weight?
These are all questions I want answered

Btw, R-77-1 right now on the dev server is actually on par, and in some ways better than AIM-120

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The J-11B is essentially just a model file with no actually capabilities right now. I really hope it doesn’t lead to a drawn out fight with gaijin.

As for the R-77-1 I don’t know if the newly datamined changes have been pushed out yet but it should be worse after. It’s a pretty strong missile either way.

I certainly hope
Maybe we can ask for PL-12A in the future, because PL-15 will definitely be months if not years away.

I’m not entirely sure about how good the PL-12A will be, but I’m hoping we get it before the AIM-120C-5.

I sort of doubt it though as Chinese players are better than other nation players (J-11A and Su-27SM same BR). So gaijin may be less inclined to give us more capability.

PL-12AE (export variant) was confirmed to have 120km launch range, compared to 80km in WT

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There is a report stating PL-12 should be able to mount on the inner PL-8B compatible pylons and I commented showing it is missing the inner pylons someone posted earlier.

This should amend the aircraft and give it up to 10x PL-12 and 2x PL-8B loadout.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/NNZ9HmH5fxaA

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maneuverability at 700 kmh with the different mods !!

AoA limit off

SAS mod

sorry I tried to make it as simple as possible to share a video with you, so I chose an upload site at random

It has just been not-a-bugged :|
Oh well, it has never been simple getting reports accepted…
What I am really disappointed is that it was closed without any explanation. (nvm they want better sources now)

In dev, WS-10A wrongly has almost the same afterburner thrust as AL-31F-M1.
It should be more powerful.


Well, they simply deleted my comment with the photo showing the loadout with missing inner pylon;
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Yes, IRL both engines have practically similar thrust characteristics.

Isn’t that photo of the J-16?

Aren’t twin pylons only for Su-35, who has widened area between nacelles?

I’m not arguing for twin pylons on the Su-27SM or 30SM. You’re the one arguing for 4x pylons per wing on the J-11B, when they have only been shown on the J-16 to the best of my knowledge.