All the information I have, both public and non-public, shows that PL12 uses 9B-1103M, and PL12 has never used 1348E since its development. And the R-77-1 was put into production because China paid the technical fees after the successful mass production of PL12. So it is unreasonable to say that the PL12 guide head is different from R77-1 because it was put into service earlier than R77-1
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Without solid data on seeker they will have to copy / paste R-77 data
China’s confidentiality is very strict, and now we can only prove that PL12 and R77-1 have the same guiding head, but there is no data about the guiding head
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A small clarification… According to Soviet tradition, air-to-air missiles in Russia are not accepted separately for service - only as part of a complex that also includes, for example, automated control systems, and so on…
That’s right…
- ground-based interception complex (Ground) - mainly anti-aircraft missile systems…
- air-based interception complex (Air) - mainly Air Defense Aviation…
State tests R-77-1 completed in 2006… but the Su-35S was not ready… The interception complex based on the Su-35S was put into service in 2010…
The head for Pl-12 was created in cooperation with the Agat Research Institute on the basis of 9B-1103M, but is not identical to that…
There is also information that 1348E. technology was sold separately.
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I don’t see any evidence it uses the 77-1 seeker.
Do you know for sure if it uses the enhanced model seeker?
Exclusive report by Aviation Weekly and Space Technology from the United States, reported by The World, titled “Western Focus on China’s PL12 Air to Air Missile”
[1]石江月. 西方瞩目 中国霹雳-12空空导弹[N]. 世界报,2008-08-06(001).
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According to open information in Russia, the 9B-1103M head has been upgraded several times…
For the Pl-12, most likely, this is also not the basic 9B-1103M, which was first presented at Farnborough-98, but a modernized Russian-Chinese one in the future, only a Chinese upgrade is possible.
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@InterFleet has this information been forwarded to the devs?
@ZVO_12_INCH
@BBCRF
@_Fantom2451
Perhaps one of you has performance information for 9B-1103M?
no，It is suspected that the R77-1 in the game did not supplement the data completely, and I do not have any performance information about the 9B-1103M
They have different modifications
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PL-12 is a bigger missile, will the 9B-1103M antenna has bigger off-axis angle?
like same Zhuk radar, in mig-29 it can turn 80 degree, in J-8IIM only 60, bison 40
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PL-12 and R-77 are practically the same diameter.
PL12 diameter 203mm
right, r-77 is 200, I thought it’s same as aim120
I’m really exicted not to play China! The J-8F might end up being better than the J-11A at this point lmao.
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Now i won’t say that you’re wrong… but look at the positives, we have 30/35ish more countermeasures compared to the Su-27SM (as of now) and we got MAW.
maybe we can get gaijin to change the j-11a to a b model cause right now there is no reason to go for it over the su27sm