Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Su-30SM is leagues better than it lol

Not with its weak engines.
Only place it beats the J11B is in CAS



…And also the fact that it can carry more the twice the amount of Fox 3 missiles that perform better than the PL-12 in long range and also short range.

Id still take the J-11 any day of the week just for the better engines and flight performance.

And yeah while the R-77-1 is wayy better up close it still looses speed like a mf when maneuvering.
The absurd missile load is the only save and grace of the SU-30

The PL-12 atm is pretty much a jack of all trades but a master of none

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B-b-but the su30 has 14 missiles and tvc so it clearly has to be the best jet ingame /s

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I also like a few R27ETs and 73s. Radar as well, PESA is sooooo nice, at least compared to 60km placeholder.

Just to ask, has anyone been able to just make a report of J11B radar in dev? says 120km in statcard but is just 90 for now.

J-11B radar range [DEV] // Gaijin.net // Issues

The radar can only lock in the green area, in the black area it can still detect them, just cannot lock.

Issue is I don’t get to see anything beyond 100km in this case. So still a 100km radar.

In which mode though?

Any I am pretty sure. PD or TWS at least. I didn’t check PD HDN or any of the other ones.

Typically you can only achieve maximum range in LPRF or HPRF modes, PD and regular TWS are MPRF which while very good in all aspect isn’t as long range as the other options.

so you should use SRC, PD HDN or PDV for achieving maximum range.

nope, it has all of 90km range, ACM is still that stupid N001 shape, in other words they have fixed literally nothing and it’s still broken

Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s statistically the best preforming flanked atm

It is, but wrong is wrong and it annoys me that they still knowingly gimp it

I honestly think 30sm is better just because it has CAS and that R77-1 is so nice. Also PESA is nice. Too many people just spam too hard with it.

Id agree but it’s weak engines are a deal breaker for me

True but if we were to not play it up high it should be fine.

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weapon set and radar set is so nice on it but the weak engines in combo with the heaviest flanker air frame is a major drawkback. id still give the J11B the title for the best flanker ingame