Well, it probably makes perfect sense. China has a lot of single-seat j-10C and j-20 for air superiority, and they will soon start making j-35s. Therefore, they do not need another single-seat fighter. I basically understood. But I didn’t understand why you said it was lighter than the su30mkk)). It’s ridiculous, the su30 is even heavier in principle than the su27, to be proud that the j-16 is lighter with composites, that’s the thing. I’m wondering how much the weight differs from the j-11b and BG. By the way, does the j-11bg have an aesa or is it a mechanical radar?
J-16 is 17.7t, while j11b is 16.5t in dev.
J-11BG has an aesa.
Oh, that’s a lot, considering that it’s most likely without weapons, which the j-16 has more than the j-11b. And how much more powerful are the engines?
WS-10D on J-16 is 140-144KN of thrust
WS-10A on J-11B is 132KN
It sounds very good.
Yeah, there is big difference between WS-10A, WS-10B/WS-10D
WS-10A was developed when China still some trouble with crafting engines
WS-10B/D is a major improvement
Okay, I just hope that the j-11b will bring me pleasure and beautiful frags, even if its radar or the number of weapons will be worse than the su-30sm. And as far as I know, few people like the Eurofighter’s mechanical radar either.
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The thing is, the radar shouldn’t be bad if Gaijin models it correctly.
The only downside would be only having 6x PL-12s.
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It is clear that it will not be bad. But against the background of electronically scanned radars, it will be much worse.
Well, it is comparable to the radar used by F-15E rn
AN/APG-70
Well, then it’s passable. The only thing that’s a pity is that the HMD is an ordinary circle. I would like something like Rafale, Eurofighter, F-15E/F-16C, because im really like SB
worse I don’t think, the Pl8B on an IRCCM more solid than the R73 but are slightly less maneuverable, personally I prefer that my fox 2 hits the target rather than it being hyper-maneuverable but after that it’s everyone’s taste.
irl the J-11B uses a domestic HMD, unfortunately we don’t have an idea what it looks like, not sure if any photos of it exists.
It should display speed and altitude though.
Well, at least they’d give me a copy of someone else’s… The circle looks just awful.
I found more information
It is domestic, but unfortunately it is similar to the J-11/J-11A HMS
Curiously though, the J-15 seems to use a more advanced HMD.
CCD sensors on the J-15 (For HMD)
someone posted this report for HUD
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Iwsg5NvRyseR
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Yes, the HUD is inaccurate ingame
The HMD/HMS is still the old one though I think, a true domestic system was used in J-10B, J-15, J-10C, J-16, J-20/J-35.
pl8 if u had plenty of experience with it has one obvious issue, similar to most other non TVC missile, it takes a bit of time between off rack and able to manoeuvre, but as it is faster, in distance that is longer. And in game this means in a 2km fast head on engagement for instance, the missile would not hit a high off axis target. This is the exact reason PL8B was very swiftly replaced in PLAAF, as this was a common thing they saw in dog fight simulations. TVC missiles don’t have that issue and therefor are better, just simply easier to use and more likely to hit. PL8B in theory has better range but we’ll have to see about that. In top tier I tend to use HMD a lot, since most fights come in supersonic conditions and turning will almost certainly mean the pilot goes unconscious, (even if u have aced pilot). I just think R-73 is just that much better than any other IR missile, simply because u don’t have to turn and that is an edge over any other IR missile.
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I prefer by far to play a PL5EII which is the fastest FOX 2 in the game and which has a more solid IRCCM from the front than an R73 which can be lured in a dogfight at less than 1km in rear lock, not all dogfights are spinning and we have plenty of opportunities to plan a FOX 2 which is not TVC, but after
this is my recentie via my gamplay I prefer a solid FOX 2 which has a hit probability of 90% than a FOX 2 THC has a probability of 60%, I had a lot more misses with the R73 and that PL5EII
I would wait for the PL10 to have a viable THC missile