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mind explaining this then?

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So for a more constructive criticism now
i’ll list some of the most bleeding cases in my opinion

Su-25 → going to 10.3 just makes it worse and more vulnerable to stronger fighters while keeping the same performance, the right way to balance this plane would be to downgrade its R-60M to R-60 and put it at 10.0 so it cant abuse all aspect vs no flares (which it can still do on a full downtier, great work guys!)

Same with the Su-25K

Su-17M2 → 10.7, no flares, only rear aspect missiles… why do you hate this plane so much gaijin? it was already one of the more vulnerable strike aircraft at its br brackets now its even worse for no reason

MiG-21 variants → the 21’s are beasts when it comes to raw performance but their armaments does not grant a br increase because you know, 4xR-60 which are very flare hungry, are only rear aspect and an arguably bad belly mounted gun with low bullet speed on a plane that loses all its speed on a slight turn

MiG-21bis variants → these will just get clubbed even harder by BVR and planes with better missiles simply because the mig 21 is a missile bus, if you put a missile bus vs faster and better equipped planes all you get is sadness and tears

A-10A/Late → same with the Su-25, plane is bad, missiles are too strong for its br and will still see flareless planes on a downtier (great job again!)

A-6E TRAM → same story but not as bad because 10.7 but… congratulations! you made a very slow and vulnerable plane face even stronger fighters that will run circles around it
and it can still sometimes face flareless planes on a downtier

TL;DR stop moving compression around and actually fix it cough cough 20.0 cough cough
Also stop giving slow strike aircraft ridiculously strong missiles and low br
instead give them worse missiles but a proper br so they arent either clubbing flareless planes or being free food for fighters

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It’d be absolutely fine at 10.0 if it had CM pods or as-is at ~9.7, there’s no point in powercreeping the everliving shit out of a very old plane

I need countermeasures pod for F-4C if change to 10.7 BR, but not forgot AIM-7E Sparrow

Did those exist?

It was perfectly fine at 10.0 or even 10.3 as it is.
I don’t understand how it’s gonna survive Magic 2 and R73 at 10.7

i still think my variant would be much much better but who will listen lol

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I saw yours, but A big difference is Gaijin was effectively decompressing 11.0-11.3 while yours are focused on top tier.
Both of these need changes, we definitely need a gap between F4E and F4S. If anything I’d rather have the F4S go away from 11.3/7 so that BR between 10.0 to 11.0 will be rather more enjoyable to play.
So that I don’t have to get smacked in my mirage 3E by a sparrow F

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Yep

We’re also missing all of Sparrow 1 and 2, as well as the Falcon family.

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The problem is not that the F-4C is too high, no. The problem is the Su-39 is too low. They decompressed = good. They did not decompress nearly enough. By now we should have had at least BR 15.0. At least! I am sorry, but the F-4C, flares or not, does not belong below 11.0.

Bruh I can’t imagine something worse than Aim7C
good luck with an A2G missile that pretends to be an AA missile

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How is it justified? Who does it hurt in the lower BR? I am actually curious.

Anybody still believe that devs (balance office) are playing their own game?

It’s a mach 2 capable aircraft facing trans-sonic aircraft. It’s just not fair. This is why they need to decompress from the ground up, not the other way around. That being said, them F-104’s sealclubbing sabres and Mig-15’s outta go to +10.3.

This is clear evidence that they do not do it.

No and it’s Very very Common
Because you don’t spend your Free time at work(or school) either

Its funny anyone thinks they do these changes to make the game better LMAO all they did was take every op plane they just had a sale on and made it useless pretty scumbag of them honestly f4 facing f16’s half the week in sim is just an actually joke

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You want to see J7E which is 1990s plane face against F15s?

I definitely feels the same for F104. right now as it is, 10.0 is probably a good BR for it, things like the Milan, hunter F58 or the AV8s should be moved up to decompress the BR below.
However I would question if the F4C is that good. It is outturned by most of the other things in the BR bracket, like the Mig21 or the F8U (Which is ridiculous to be still at 10.0 btw), and it needs a very long time to get to mach 1, while mach 1.3 is the fastest you would usually go in an actual combat.
Also, subsonic aircraft is not guaranteed to be bad , you still have some incredibly OP plane like the Ariete if not because of the all aspect missile of course, subsonic above br 9.0 is usually top notch and would not fear something like the F4.

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Your F-16A wont just be one step below ARH planes, youre on the same br as the Mig-29SMT, F-4F ICE and Tornado F.3 AOP all of which with 4x AMRAAM (other then the SMT ofc which has 6x R-77*). Not to mention sitting above planes like the Harriers which also have 4x AMRAAM

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