What is bro yapping on about? Puma is 3.3 and AB43 is 2.7
ZSU-57-2 , 2S1 , M36B1 , M18 , BTR-80A , T-72M1 are all same br as their counterparts, if Italy was “Unfair” these would be in different brs. I play Italy alot and there is not a hint of unfairness, infact Italy is one of the more fun nations to play.
No it is not, I have best KD in it. The P40 is my go to tank for some gaurenteed fun.
Breda doesnt suffer, it is an excelent vehicle which I even bring up to 6.7
I admit I do not have any expirience with the Dardo
If they were nerfed so much, why are they still viable?
And 2.7 didn’t exist, they would end up at 3.0 together all the time
Gaijin did try to move the Italian M26 up and the German M48 down
Due to massive backlash, they reverted it
The Breda 501 gets uptiered a lot, and due to this, it can’t do what it’s supposed to be able to
Aka front penning enemy armor
Due to its speed, like with other vehicles, it remains viable
But similar vehicles don’t get the same punishment
I’m not saying Gaijin treats Italy like no one else and gives them worse BR’s across the board
But the G.55s1 and XP-50 have the same stats and a 1.0 br difference
Italian stuff over performs, it gets bumped up
It remains viable because literally anything that can penetrate 100mm is “viable”
But it’s not about viability, it’s about fairness
This could absolutely be viable at 6.3
Should it be there? Absolutely not
But it hasn’t stopped gaijin before
That’s my point Mr “yapper”
Who’s the yapper? The man who yaps? Or the man who yaps to he who yapped first?
2.7 do exist with a line-up of Zrinyl II, M15/42. You can pop the 75/34 in the line up too. Either way, gaijin balances on performance not line ups, it is player’s choice to up tier vehicles.
They did try, but wasn’t implemented.
Breda is supposed to be used as a flanker, brawler or sniper. Not supposed to face the enemy front on.
Fast vehicles get the same punishment, the PUMA a WHOLE br bracket, M18’s moved up a WHOLE br bracket (it was once 4.7). And the most infamous, the EBR 1951/4 both got HEAVILY punished. I can name a whole lot more.
Dont know cas
Anything that over preforms gets moved up or will eventually get moved up.
It wont be.
I am just correcting the incorrect facts you listed out.
In conclusion this vehicle will not be at a br of 6.7 as YOU listed.
I remember the HE has 58mm of pen, but for the AP round (only these 2 rounds are known to have been used) the penetration seems to be very, very good. As in, cold war good.
Truly a muehehehehe for Italy mains like me if this thing gets added >:)
Also it could carry only 6 rounds in it’s chassis at a time ;(
Aside from that website being sketchy and and often wrong, gaijin calculates penetration and without any HE filler, that 50,8 kg shell ast 800m/s only will have 308mm pen. However i doubt that its solid shot. Even with 1 kg filler the pen will already drop to 278mm. Still good but not “Cold war era” good.
I have had that and an obscure video in Italian say it’s plain old AP but I am yet to be proven wrong - but knowing the Italians and them loving APHE with a touch too much HE filler I don’t fully trust it either, but it’s the best we’ve got atm
Hi! Amazing suggestion: I think it would made a fine addition to the game. I was wondering what its BR might be, so I decided to compare it to the Sturer Emil.
It is faster than the Sturer (35 km/h vs 25 km/h), and has lower profile (2,0 vs 2,7 m). The Sturer is better protected (max: 30 mm vs 50 mm), but both armors don’t matter much: I guess both these TDs would be pretty tanky if you don’t shot the ammo or with proper shells. I think that the Semovente would be easier to kill by planes and machine guns. The Sturer has crearly better depression (0° vs -15°): a depression of 0° would be very annoying. However, the Semovente has better traverse (29°/-29° vs 6°/-5°) and elevation (45° vs 10°).
The Semovente can carry less ammo: 1? Would surely be a problem. I saw that another user suggests that the ammo reserve could be 8 (as with the Semovente da 90/53): in this case the Semovente would be playable. The Sturer has better reload time: (~60 s vs 19 s). However, I read that in case the reload time could go up to 2/3 round per minute (so, around 30/20 s).
The 149/40 is very, very powerful: it shots a 46 kg shell at a muzzle velocity of 800 m/s. Astounding! By comparison, the Sturer fired 26 kg shells at 900 m/s, the Jagdtiger fired a 28 kg shell at 950 m/s. The Semovente has a slightly worse muzzle velocity, but a shell that weighs twice as much! And it could fire standard high-explosive and armor-piercing rounds.
So, actually it would be difficult to find a proper BR for the Semovente da 149/40… because clearly it is absolutely unbalanced. A real glass cannon. And well… I find its concept very interesting! I’d love to play it. I’d put it at a fairly high BR: maybe even 5.0. Its complete lack of armor would make it vulnerable to any BR, even 1.0 (XD) so I might as well put it in a BR where it can exploit the raw power of its 149 mm gun. Its mobility is average, its gun excellent, its armor truly awful: an interesting glass cannon that would enrich the Italian branch with another suffering, overly specialized and unbalanced vehicle… Which is precisely why I play Italy :D.
About the ammo, it can only load 1 ammo (the other 7 are just theorical and also wrong theory).
Btw for the 149 was developed a HEAT ammo, but we don’t know a lot about it sadly.
