The latest Dev server update came with quite a lot of change on the new additions of the soon coming major update. One of them being the buff of the Captor E ECRS MK-1 and MK-2 radars for the AESA Eurofighters. This really made me wonder why such a buff wasn’t applied to every single AESA radar in the game. Currently, every radar, PESA or AESA scans just about at the same speed, while the Captor E will scan several times faster. Would there be any way of fixing this balance issue ?
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Sure, find sources which state numbers
Have an Nice day
The ECRS scan speeds were updated due to bug reports filled with verified sources, courtesy of @Flame2512
If you think other AESA radars should be performing differently, submit bug reports.
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Currently the ECRS work now with just ~45% of what it should be
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/D0UQng0JosZM
That’s quite the point of why I opened that topic. I’m having a hard time finding anything about the time that those radars take to scan their entire field of view (which would translate differently in-game compared to reality since AESA pattern of scanning isn’t modeled yet).
For the rafale for example, I only found a pretty unreliable source from an old book stating that the old PESA RBE2 had a 110°/s scanning speed, but nothing concerning the RBE2 AESA. For the F-2 i found nothing reliable either.
Well, thats the Issue, in the end we talk about stuff which is in service today, so its very hard to find actuall numbers
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I’m not complaining about the ECRS search speed and i’m pretty happy as a Typhoon player that it got such a buff (even tho it could be better indeed) but other AESAs currently in game are also underperforming but didn’t get that treatment.
Btw, do we know if EF-2000s with MK-1 radars are being put into service ? I could only find about them being tested in patrol missions and the amount that was ordered.
We know from an email with the Bundeswehr that they have since 2023 an EF with AESA, so its save to say that atleast the IPA7 (98+07) has an Mk.1 mounted
(Same aircraft Also tested the AMK Kit)
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Thanks, i was really struggling to find that kind of info on the matter. The same goes for the MK.2, even though it’s already known to still be in active testing and development phase.
I wasn’t really complaining about the ECRS buff tbh, it’s pretty fair, and it gets it closer to a somewhat realistic depiction of an AESA scanning pattern/speed.
I mean, I can open a bug report, but without any relevant primary source, I can’t do much in that regard. That’s pretty much why I opened that topic, I want to know if other people have better sources than I do on the subject, and maybe file a bug report if the sources are solid enough.
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I was just saying it bluntly, Gaijin simply won’t change stuff like that unless they get new information. Also was just clarifying on why the ECRS radars got buffed
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Don’t know; would be a nice buff to the Su-34 though, as would all AESA and PESA radars.
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Uptier both the EFT (AESA)s and Rafale to 15.7 for the sake of everyone. Quarantine them until other nation’s get equivalents. Then decompress toptier to 14.7 with the 3 exceptions being the EFT and J-10C to 15.0, Su-30SM2 to 15.3.
The current toptier jets don’t deserve to fight current 13.7s, much less 13.3s.
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It has a “beam control period” of “4ms or less”. This is around the faster end of CPIs, and depending on how many intervals in a beam cycle, could very well put the F-2 at having around 380-500 degrees per second given the current halfwidth used in game. Although if they gave it proper beam forming the effective search speed could be higher.
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Scan speed isn’t a universal trait.
Scan speed differs from radar to radar.
USA doesn’t have any airborne radar with more than 120° field of regard, so in that respect (if we’re trying to find a comparison between them and Captor-E/similar radars) USA will always lag behind. Of course, if you meant broad equivalents, fine by me though for now it will be pain for whoever is in 14.0+
Also, that’s not how decompression works. Raising it that high that fast will lead to quite the mess in the lower BRs. It’s like when decompression season comes around we don’t constantly see this happening again and again. Things still too high, some questionably too low, etc etc.
I thought F-35 had 3 radars. One frontal and 2 side ones. That’s probably the only one.
Source? Cause from what I can tell the 360° thing is mostly cameras
Yeah you can disregard me, I don’t know where I got the idea from.