thanks for the reply
Do you guys think they will give the saaf gripe meteors? Even though it never used them?
Probably not. If we get a historical loadout, it will be IRIS-Ts and maybe A-Darter. But I can also just see them leaving it be.
Besides, we’ve got the Typhoon and F-35B for Meteor
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I doubt it will get a historical loadout, historical would be to renove almost all of its CAS weapons and to leave it with just IRIS-T.
Its more likely they’ll keep it as it is now as Gaijin seems content to leave all the Gripen C’s as they are now given they have no interest in correcting them to irl standards as they can just do whatever they want to them and adjust their BR as they see fit. Currently i cant see them adding more stuff to the C’s and its more likely later Gripens will be the historical C model which is a shame…
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What if they do take away all CAS weapons and (no one get angry) add mirage 2000i with cas capabilities?
You’re putting faith into the idea that gaijin then adds a mirage to fix the hole lost from CAS. Imo its gonna sound mean but it shouldn’t have even received CAS in the first place, the SAAF Gripen is on almost on par with the F16AJ in how many fictional things are on the SAAF gripen compared to every other Gripen. Additionally the Gripen has essentially filled a hole it shouldn’t have for CAS which imo losing its CAS is acceptable as it shouldn’t have fufilled that role to begin with. And i know what people will say and yes all Gripens should lose their fake CAS they never historically used. All this does it correct a jet that Britain doesn’t need and hurt every other nation.
At this point its best to leave it as is. Gaijin has shown no interest in historical accuracy nor giving the Gripens buffs now that they are some of the worst performing 13.7’s for the state of the game. As for the SAAF it should stay as is and so should all the Gripen C’s, we dont need more fictional equipment being added to abominations that don’t exist until gaijin properly names them which would again mean the SAAF Gripen C would be losing GBU-39 as right now that is the only MS20 feature present on any of the Gripens.
What i hope is that Gaijin actually plans to make the next model of Gripens correctly, we dont need a Gripen NG/E being a A model or a C model MS20, it needs to be the correct vehicle considering they have failed to even slightly care towards the Gripens and their accuracy.
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The Mirage would be unneeded.
The Gripen C served a single purpose. To give Britain a fighter until ARH was added. It did that. It could be removed from the tree entirely these days without too much harm given we have the Tornado F3 AOP, Sea Harrier FA2 and Typhoon FGR4 to take its place.
As for CAS. That is one area Britain was well equipped for IRL and is shown in game with the Tornado GR1/GR4, Harrier GR7/T10 and Typhoon, let alone additions missing like the Jaguar GR3A and Harrier GR9A and the underperforming nature of the GR4, GR7 and Typhoon.
Given the Gripen Cs actually rather lack-luster A2G payload (especially with that missing hardpoint) its hard to choose it over the FGR4 or a true mud mover like the Harrier Gr7.
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Depends on the sophistication of the airframe I should think.
I know this thread is old, but it would appear the AOA toggle on the SAAF JAS39C doesn’t affect the aircraft whatsoever, whereas on the swedish models the AOA toggle makes a noticeable difference. Not entirely sure about other exported models (Thai, Hungarian)
Wanna send some clips to show your point? Also makes it easier to bug report
turns out theres already bug reports on all of them
Links so we can get more attention on them?
(JP) The Thai JAS39Cs AOA toggle does not function. // Gaijin.net // Issues
JAS39C (Exported models) AOA switch not working // Gaijin.net // Issues
AOA toggle doesn’t work on JAS-39C(South Africa) // Gaijin.net // Issues
SAAF(UK) Gripen’s AoA limiter does not working. // Gaijin.net // Issues
JAS-39C (SAF, Thai, & Hun) AoA limiter toggle does not work // Gaijin.net // Issues
No response given on all of them it would appear
Tbf the AOA is incorrect on all the gripens and isn’t worth using to begin with imo. 33° is pretty mid considering the vehicles we have at the same BR.
Fighter Plane Crashes at Airshow a Saab JAS 39 Gripen Jet Crash Accident at Stockholm Water Festival
The Gripen can pull more than 90 degrees of AOA, proven by this video
Well… that’s the A version with a prototype FBW with a bug in it. The 33 deg is still to little though:
(Source: http://www.icas.org/ICAS_ARCHIVE/ICAS2002/PAPERS/532.PDF)
Just eyeballing the image it seems to be statically unstable up to ~40-45 deg and anything more is statically stable with automatic recovery logic.
I also found this:
(Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1474667015332274)
Sadly don’t have time to do a report nor add this as comments to any of the others. i have exams next week…
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They won’t accept it. They chose to go with the inaccurate report put in a while back that I still hold grievance for. Not just that, but they chose to keep taking a hatchet to it because it was still outperforming the Americans and Russians. So it is well and truly below even the report with sources that hold less than credible provenance.
It makes me quite sad.
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I know, im a frequent gripen crier lol
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Am i crazy or did you add the les letters to your name?
Same sources has been accepted for other changes so it’s still possible.
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