SAAB JAS 39E/F Gripen - General discussion

They’re not as aggressive for deployment unlike the J-10A/C slats in which I think that’s how they should deploy on the Gripen C/E.

This video even shows the movement of the slats during the maneuver.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/iKswEVlGb-E?si=d-ASw9_XCP3zVYn5

video shows it well too. Slow flight at decent alpha the slats are deployed

In WT they barely deploy unless you pull really hard all the way.

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Shouldn’t the wings be aligned they definitely aren’t in this, I think the Gripens are more seen with their ailerons being aligned when transporting as we see here.
https://www.youtube.com/live/ImhrEtjAfqk?si=NA0P5j-xTExZ-KJ_
24 min in you can see both sets of ailerons are slightly misaligned
I think for transport its different then standard landing where we see the ailerons split angles.

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For the last two images on the right column, the Gripens don’t adjust their canards as shown in the images, and it’s not like Gaijin is unable to model it. Various other canarded aircraft (aside from the J-10 which suffers the same issues) has the canards angled downward while in a high AoA state.

Gripen A/C and E at low speed and high AoA:


Rafale for example in a similar state. Note the canards angled down and stabilizing the aircraft.:

Meanwhile Gripen IRL in a slow speed and high AoA flight:


I’m curious if there has been a bug report submitted about this. Might be worth submitting if there isn’t one existing. Maybe they might fix the slats issue along with this.

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This makes me so sad

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It has been reported previously but has been turned down and applied “Not a bug.” I wonder if giving these two sources I’ve manage to find would benefit. I might try making this bug report happen.

Here’s a snippet of what i’ve found in the case if anyone is curious.

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pwKul9rg1GJ6

Provided a bug report on this. Any inputs would be appreciated as this is the first time submitting a bug report.

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updated

(didnt know where to put it so it went under “Flight performance”)

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So, as of now there are quite a few additions that has indeed NOT been added to the Gripen E alltough they are ingame for other vehicles just as advanced as Gripen E (ingame advanced ofc ;) )

Though all this, one of the main issues with the FM is the missing of the larger wings / flaps extensions, do you guys think they will add it? the suggestion has been accepted for quite a while now…

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Honestly it seems like they might aim for a “Gripen E (late)” considering how we have one of the prototype Gripen E currently modeled in game with the older wing and it wouldn’t be surprising for Gaijin to go with “early” and “late” variants as they’ve done in the past with other aircraft. Otherwise we should’ve had the new wing from the get go.

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Such a stupid thing too, there is no Late, they need to change the name and we need an answer from @Smin1080p_WT as to what the devs idea of the slop they gave us is. We need to know if we were given a gripen E prototype instead of the E or the actual E and if their sloppy mess they call modeling will be corrected. Its embarrassing how much is wrong and lets not wven start on the cockpit MFD or the MAW and RWR being wrong lmao.

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Guess if it makes us feel any better, the J-10C was also dropped in a pretty…meh state and the devs are well aware of it.

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This might be one of the worst updates honestly. They brought one of the most wanted and anticipated vehicles, not even half completed.

One of the biggest flaws of WT or Gaijin team is that they absolutely refuse to communicate with their player base. It is such a nonsense management. They don’t even bother to explain most of the game mechanics, let alone clarify such simple matters.

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It kinda makes me feel even worse. These stuff just tells me that they will not even bother to work on it and what we have in game now is what we will have. There is bunch of “accepted” stuff that will stay in that state for a long time, let alone the other main issues will be resolved ever. It is jut sad. Sometimes, Gaijin makes me regret that I do love planes. I just wish we had an alternative.

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I suppose that they will rename the aircraft “EARLY” and when meteorm iris-t gets added, we get the “late” model as gaijin always did with the swedish tree and let alone with many other trees

You’ve said this a couple of times, i don’t think it’s sloppy at all, the extended wings are easy to miss as A LOT of media of the E version doesn’t have them equipped yet.

There is (to me personally) only one known actual error in the 3D model and that is the landing gear struts (i think it is) clipping through the main body. Otherwise they’ve actually managed to get a lot of details in the model that i don’t even think a majority of players even knew were there on the E but not the C.

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The extended wings, the wrong cant on the thermal pod which lead to us needing to coreect them because they didn’t bother to see how it was actual modeled on the aircraft and the landing gear which even after the fixes gets worse each time. Thats not inclusing the MFD which is so terrible id unironically prefer the Gripen A and that thing doesn’t even have its historical MFD because gaijin put all their focus on the SAAF Gripen C when that was added.

So lets not call their slop anything other than what it is

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Which it didn’t have at one point so it’s likely going to be considered an upgrade that the dev’s can choose to add or not.

That’s not a modeling issue, it’s the thermal pod not being aligned with the pylon, this is also present on all the gripens.

Aren’t they correct now? there were two fixes like a week ago. If they still aren’t correct then a new report needs to be made because i think all the reports on the landing gear has been adressed.

Which isn’t a modeling issue, but i do agree that it could use some attention and love.

Doesn’t it? i thought it did, could you show me what’s wrong with it? and is it reported?

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Gripen A cockpit was reported but ignored in favor of the Gripen C because the Gripen C was priority just compare these to ingame its literally night and day lmao

Heres the one in game

Again people ask me why im so negative its because when was the last time sweden air got more attention to have equal footing like everyone else? Our own aircraft are done by some unpaid intern who spent 3 minutes and called it a day. Hell even the MLU isnt unique when its cockpit was given to everyone else. So why shouldn’t i call gaijin out for their sloppy work?

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