The one is game is a WDNS upgrade one?
In game it just calls it an F-35, does the one that could still use AGM-12s look different?
regular F35 has the pointy J35 nose
F35 WNDS has the Recon S35 nose with the step in it and the cameras visible
the one in game has the Recon nose and is thus the WNDS variant
F35 post WNDS
step in the nose
I don’t get why it only gets 2 aim 9s. There is a F-35 wdns at display outside the aviation museum in my town and it has 4 hardpoints labeled for the Aim-9b and J. And 3 countermeasure pods on the tail.
radar doesn’t become useless without radar missiles, it’s still good to find targets easily (considering how advanced radar on AJS is), as for guns, they’re terrible and i agree with that. it all depends on your loadout, you can carry 3-4 mavericks, plus 9-L’s, if you’re willing to sacrifice something else.
seems like f-35 will have a different playstyle, ig. as for counter measures, i hope they’ll add more of them
No more CM modelled beneath the tail
However, no more dispensers have yet been modeled. All the CMs are dispensed from the BOY 402
Hope they gonna give it its proper missiles (AIM-9B FGW.2 and AIM-9N-2) so it is actually cooked
I know the exact one you are referring to, and it is incredibly frustrating! But alas, it is not real. Museum pieces are not known for their accurate ordnance displays when it comes to pylons, and the flight manual repeatedly states (as well as in the F-35 book written by the pilots themselves) that only the outer pylons had the electronics to fire a Sidewinder. This is a case on many planes, like how the Russian top tier jets can’t mount the heatseeking missiles on their belly pylons since they just never had the electronics installed for it (due to something about the seeker being unable to work properly under the fuselage or somethng). And the 9J is just wrong. It’s a 9N-2, which is admittedly just a very modified 9J, but they are not the same performance wise.
So yeah, this is just museum antics that have no basis in the actual electronics of the aircraft according to any primary sources, sorry
It is a little ironic that they buffed it, but also over-buffed it. All my sources say the rockets were never mounted on the center pylon (5), and whether that was to a lack of electronics to use them or simply doctrine, I cannot remember at the moment. Nevertheless, it should by that account, only be the bombs that use said pylon (the rest of its ordnance featured on it serve no purpose in the game as of now)
I see they added MFCD, and parts of EMFCD. I can live with that, although I disagree with the chaff-only option. While the manual often calls it chaff (since the standard procedure was to use them as chaff), the book written by the pilots very explicitly calls the 44 tailhook catridges flare catridges. Meanwhile they also specifically refer to the chaff catridges as chaff. This seems like deliberate wording from the pilots, and the cassettes are essentially described as interchangable. The same page at large talks about the MFCD upgrade, and even the EMFCD.
I know most of you can’t read this, but VENSTRE (meaning left), talks about the image on the left. To give a translation myself;
“Two cassettes with combined 22 flare catridges sat in extension of one another below on both sides of the tail. In extension of the cooling air intake to the afterburner maneuver cylinder were two holders with six downward oriented flares.”
Doesn’t that sound very deliberately flare-focused? These cassettes would be interchangable with the chaff ones of the same size, as seen on the right image in the EMFCD pod.
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do you know how many flares are in the wing roots? right now i thinking 12 flares are missing. i count 12 in each root and then 12 from the rear side dispensers. i only see 24 flares listed.
Wing roots only hold Chaff
Could it be chaff focused because the paragraph is about electronic warfare? Perhaps there is somewhere in the book that specifies the make of the diferent dispensers and the type of countermeasures used? Pretty standard to have the option to change between chaff or flare loadouts
if you scroll up to the flight manual photos you will see the wing root #5 says wing root flare modules. they are for flares not chaff.
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The dispensers seen on the 35XS as well should be flares only, and the right wing root dispensers are also flares only. Everything else is interchangable
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ok yeah I saw it
So whats the Total amount of Flares and chaff the F-35 can carry?
I’m pretty sure 22 countermeasures and 44 only chaff
So we got all the weapon pylons but the CMs are still wrong? Is it just missing the external CM dispenser or more? Its kinda hard to keep track of all the places they stuck flares on this plane haha.