And some countermeasures located in the wing-roots? Or so i think ive read
That comes with the EMFCD, yes. At this moment I do not have a good image of those outside of one graph from the manual, but this is mainly depending on what Gaijin does next. If they don’t add EMFCD (which primarily consists of the wing pylon pods), I won’t be happy but I can compromise for the time being. I will however not compromise on them skipping MFCD, since that added the same tail flares as the Finnish model, but also the tailhook flares. I want a full package, or none of it. The 12 wing root flares came in the EMFCD upgrade, not MFCD
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*Graph in question
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Interesting! Do you know if the F-35s also used the A-38DK CM pod?
I see there is some tape in the wing root on the first picture, would that make that aircraft a EMFCD upgrade?
The A38DK pods were only used on the TF-35 model (the twin-seat trainer), and as far as I know only those had the equipment installed on them to operate the pods. I did some rough calculations on how the game calculates chaff quantity on similar pods like that on the Viggen or Lansen, and the result is 1 chaff is equal to 150g of weight in the pod. Now, I know exactly how much mass of chaff the A38DK pods can contain at most, which is about 163kg. This would mean each A38DK pod features rougly 1090 pieces of chaff each.
So this aircraft here carries 2080 pieces of chaff on the wings alone
The TF-35s in doctrine were meant to be ECM aircraft, so they feature these chaff spam pods, as well as pylon-mounted jammers. They never had the EMFCD pods in exchange for this though, so much less flare capacity. If Gaijin ever gives these ECM aircraft a purpose in the game, it could be a good addition
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I should also note if you see this kind of image of what looks like an A38DK pod or AN/ALE-2 pod, it isn’t. The RF-35s were given camera pods, but they also needed counterweights in this configuration. This was solved with 8 spare AN/ALE-2 pods that were hollowed out and turned into “TIC-tanks”. They look the same, but you’ll notice they are only ever mounted on the RF-35s (that can be recognized by the cameras on the side of the nose)
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As for this, that is a good question. The image description does not inherently state whether the airframe has EMFCD or not, nor any date. The image next to it demonstrates the EMFCD pods of potentially the same aircraft, but I can’t say for certain
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I really wished this wasn’t a thing, using land based aircraft on carriers in WT, simply because they have a hook. It’s completely unrealistic wishful thinking…
Actually, correction to that; it states they were only installed in the right wing root, so it can’t be since that is the left wing (unless the image would be flipped for some reason). So I’m still stumped on actual photos of that. Maybe I can visit one of the F-35s and take pictures myself, or ask a pilot personally
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Weird, it looks like the wing roots share resemblances. Perhaps it was used to store some other electrical equipment.
Saw this photo on wikipedia, where it is stated that the aircraft is a pre-wdns version. But arent those BOY-402 dispensers?
I’m not familiar with what BOY-402 dispensers are, but I’m gonna assume you are referring to the ones the XS has as well.
The aircraft is indeed pre-WDNS, but MFCD and EMFCD is separate upgrades from the WDNS stuff. WDNS is purely about weapon delivery instruments and computers, while MFCD and EMFCD were programs to improve the individual aircraft’s ability to defend itself.
MFCD was installed in the late 1970 on the aircraft before WDNS began, which weren’t installed until the early-to-mid 1980s. There is a short gap of time where the pre-WDNS would have the MFCD package. Then comes EMFCD which expanded on it with the wing pylons, and those are exclusively installed on the post-WDNS models as it was developed alongside it.
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Those are BOY-402 on the engine housing, much like that the XS has, but it has options for more as @SilverBud has outlined. I’d recommend looking at the F-35/RF-35/T-35 crew manual, its a good read but be careful of the Neon Green flashbangs
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it’s also a strike aircraft now, there’s no reason to take it over ajs37
If it has everything it should have defensive wise, I’d fly it over the AJ
It is an older airframe but at least don’t need to sacrifice hardpoints just so you can carry a gun and countermeasures. In my eyes this will be almost like a sidegrade with the internal guns, countermeasures, better RWR, more and bigger bombs. The only advantage of the AJS as of now are top speed and air to ground missiles. I expect it to receive more internal chaff and flare dispensers.
shouldn’t the F-35 Draken also get AGM-12s?
Yes and no
can you elaborate?
Ah, right. This was the dev thread. I’ll copy what I said elsewhere;
They already gave it the wrong missiles, namely the 9B should be the AIM-9B FGW.2. At the very least it should be an option to bring it!
Obviously the 9N should be the AIM-9N-2, and I got sources to back this up. The missile may not be in the game, but with my incredibly limited amount of coding knowledge, I would presume changing a value from 2.2 to 3.2 is not an impossible task, at least.
I also know it isn’t a balance issue, because we already got stuff like the AV-8C with a remarkably similar missile, except it has 5 seconds of burn time. Yet that thing is at 9.7! Sure it also has way less ordnance, but when they can only carry two missiles each, what does that matter in air combat, right?
Center pylon is still missing (5), and the manual states it can mount bombs on it so that’s a given.
Are the MK20 Rockeyes essential? Not really no, nor do they serve a purpose at present unless they get a buff to airfield bombing damage. So until they have a purpose, those can stay off really.
They literally added the control panel for MFCD in the cockpit,
which is problematic because it is currently missing a pretty crucial part of MFCD; namely the tailhook pods.
Speaking of countermeasures; EMFCD is still absent. Could it be logical? Yes, it is optional for awhile in its lifespan, however it seems unwise to add the most upgraded model of the aircraft without it, when the previous model does not feature EMFCD at all.
(Don’t forget the added right wing root flare modules!)
The tailhook has been added, and is modelled, but it doesn’t actually do anything. I can kinda see that since it isn’t meant for carriers, and the only place using wires is still carriers, but ehhh… Idk. It’s visually there, but doesn’t extend, yet game does not support its purpose on runways yet either.
The missils amusingly currently have no pylon connecting them to the wings, but that’s surely just a visual glitch that will be fixed before launch.
Obviously there are some textures missing still, but that’s just a matter of time.
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